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From: bobster on 8 May 2010 01:40 Thanks for the suggestions Vanguard. I downloaded SysInternals AutoRuns and found some left over stuff from Avast! -- "files not found" and deleted them. Also went to Event Viewer and found several errors that were related to the Avast! residue. After all of this "cleanup", the 11-12 blue bar passes remain unchanged. Not sure where to look next. Guess I'll just live with it as my XP loads in just under a minute. ======================================================= "VanguardLH" <V(a)nguard.LH> wrote in message news:hs26gr$nbn$1(a)news.albasani.net... bobster wrote: > When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue progress bar is > typical > before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take about 4-5 passes > but > now takes about 11-12. > > I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS Essentials > virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. How can I reduce the number > of passes of the blue progress bar? How many startup programs you chose to load on Windows startup. How many services are enabled and how many you added for software installs. If any of them perform intensive disk activities (cleanup, scan, etc). If WGA connects to go look for an update. If any of your security programs check for an update (anti-virus, firewall, HIPS, anti-malware, etc). Some security products are more intrusive than others during startup, like MSE will chomp up 90%, or more, CPU usage during startup than, say, Avast. The more you install on your host the more startup programs you end up with and the more that want to go check for updates. Poorly coded, incompatible, or conflicting drivers can cause enlongated startup times. Use SysInternals' AutoRuns to see all the locations used to define startup programs that load up on your host. msconfig will only show some of the startup locations. Also, many services added by software installs won't show up in msconfig because those services get rolled in a common instance of svchost.exe. Both msconfig and AutoRuns will show the list of services but not what is rolled into svchost.exe, so go look at your list of services (run services.msc) to see what got added. You might also start looking in the Event Viewer (eventvwr.exe) to see if there are any errors occurring during startup.
From: Twayne on 9 May 2010 14:36 In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, bobster <fauxie(a)bogus.net> typed: > I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I > also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No > change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar > to get to the Welcome screen. > > Any other ideas out there? I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion. 9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6 passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... . Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might be out of kilter. > > > "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time. > "bobster" <fauxie(a)bogus.net> wrote in message > news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue >> progress bar is typical >> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take >> about 4-5 passes but >> now takes about 11-12. >> >> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS >> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. >> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress >> bar?
From: bobster on 10 May 2010 15:48 Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and "protection". I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my shutdown time is 10-15 seconds. ==================================================== "Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message news:ujJqUa67KHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, bobster <fauxie(a)bogus.net> typed: > I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I > also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No > change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar > to get to the Welcome screen. > > Any other ideas out there? I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion. 9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6 passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... . Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might be out of kilter. > > > "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message > news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time. > "bobster" <fauxie(a)bogus.net> wrote in message > news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue >> progress bar is typical >> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take >> about 4-5 passes but >> now takes about 11-12. >> >> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS >> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. >> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress >> bar?
From: Jim on 11 May 2010 09:46 Mine used to be 8 passes till I installed Open Office which took it to 10 . On Mon, 10 May 2010 12:48:28 -0700, "bobster" <fauxie(a)bogus.net> wrote: >Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the number of passes >varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do seems to lower this number (I have >used MSbootvis and defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time >it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous apps and >"protection". > >I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under one minute and my >shutdown time is 10-15 seconds. > >==================================================== >"Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message >news:ujJqUa67KHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, >bobster <fauxie(a)bogus.net> typed: >> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I >> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No >> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar >> to get to the Welcome screen. >> >> Any other ideas out there? > >I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number of passes varies >over time and how many cold starts and reboots you do, too. Windows >attempts to reorganize boot processes and it changes things on occasion. > 9 trips and a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. I've >had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at this minute it's doing 6 >passes. Some programs inherently increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to >worry about. Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes whatever >time it needs to get up and running and nothing more or less. Don't use it >to troubleshoot; 12 passes is fine, so would be 15 or ... . > Now if the speed of that bar changes, that would indicate something might >be out of kilter. > > > >> >> >> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time. >> "bobster" <fauxie(a)bogus.net> wrote in message >> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue >>> progress bar is typical >>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take >>> about 4-5 passes but >>> now takes about 11-12. >>> >>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS >>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. >>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress >>> bar? > > >
From: Twayne on 13 May 2010 14:48 In news:OFtCGnH8KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl, bobster <fauxie(a)bogus.net> typed: > Thanks, Twayne, you have relieved my mind. Right now, the > number of passes varies between 9 and 12. Nothing I do > seems to lower this number (I have used MSbootvis and > defrag c: -b to optimize boot times) although at one time > it was as low as 4-5. That was before I added numerous > apps and "protection". > > I can't complain about boot times -- they're always under > one minute and my shutdown time is 10-15 seconds. > > ==================================================== > "Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message > news:ujJqUa67KHA.980(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > In news:eiIoJhj7KHA.5820(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl, > bobster <fauxie(a)bogus.net> typed: >> I took MS Essentials off the startup list of msconfig. I >> also uninstalled the dial-up modem and its driver. No >> change, still takes 11-12 passes of the blue progress bar >> to get to the Welcome screen. >> >> Any other ideas out there? > > I'd say you're fine. You'll actually find that the number > of passes varies over time and how many cold starts and > reboots you do, too. Windows attempts to reorganize boot > processes and it changes things on occasion. 9 trips and > a max of about 12 seems like the average in my opinion. > I've had it as high as in the twenties long ago, but at > this minute it's doing 6 passes. Some programs inherently > increase it, but as a rule, it's nothing to worry about. > Specific, and variable from machine to machine, takes > whatever time it needs to get up and running and nothing > more or less. Don't use it to troubleshoot; 12 passes is > fine, so would be 15 or ... . Now if the speed of that bar > changes, that would indicate something might be out of > kilter. > > > >> >> >> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message >> news:OTIhqpi7KHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> PS, a modem will also cause a long boot time. >> "bobster" <fauxie(a)bogus.net> wrote in message >> news:eBS4yTh7KHA.3964(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >>> When XP SP3 is loading, how many passes of the blue >>> progress bar is typical >>> before the "Welcome" screen appears? Mine use to take >>> about 4-5 passes but >>> now takes about 11-12. >>> >>> I have only 3 things on my msconfig start list, use MS >>> Essentials virus/spyware and regularly run malwarebytes. >>> How can I reduce the number of passes of the blue progress >>> bar? Glad to hear it. That's pretty much typical; every time you install something, especially large suites, it's going to increase the amount of time needed. Some things will change it a lot, some not at all, and other times over the next three or four boots, you might find successively smaller numbers of trips as XP arranges things. Beware of assigning problems to that; I've had it as hight as 32 and eventually it settled back into place at 14. HTH, Twayne`
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