From: JYA on
Hi

On 2008-04-11 16:15:34 +1000, username localhost
<username.localhost(a)gmail.com> said:
> Thus the best hope for a continuation is to convince HP to wake-up and
> fully commit to their calculator line. Barring that, the next best
> hope is for another established company to contract hydrix and friends

Is there much future in the future of calculator hardware really?
Look at the eee PC , or the latest ultra-light laptop from HP. They
don't sale for much more than a HP50g.

If the future of calculator still exists, it will be on those kind of
machine, as software.
TI has taken the smart approach. They have designed their latest
calculator as a device that fills a gap, and the software is available
for either that machine (Nspire) or PC or Mac. NSpire isn't just a
calculator, it's a range of software running on various platform.

And so far, what they've done is great (but I'm a bit biased on their
latest software obviously)

Jean-Yves

--
They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
deserve neither liberty or security (Benjamin Franklin)

From: Andreas Möller on
Hello,

> Despite all the bravado at HHC last year, it doesn't appear that HP is really
> all that committed to calculators. I do think JYA and
> that-calculator-group-manager-guy are talented, dedicated and hard-working,
> they just don't have a whole lot of corporate support behind them.
That for sure would explain a lot.

Now I can not discuss everything about this in public. So I have sent
you a mail to this address you are using here. Please let me know if
this a valid address from you and that my mail has reached you.

Greetings,
Andreas
From: John H Meyers on
On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:19:55 -0500:

> Look at the eee PC, or the latest ultra-light laptop from HP.
> They don't sell for much more than a HP50g.

At Amazon.com, in USA:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Y33CVM "eee" $400
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YEMKGY "eee" $400
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000YG646Y "eee" $400
http://astore.amazon.com/asus-eee-pc-20/ "eee" $300-$520

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000GTPRPS "HP50G" $120

Showing that a 50G is way overpriced :)

$$$
From: Andreas Möller on
Hello,

> In these days and age, no one really expect you to provide a printed
> manual. In fact it's rather the opposite. The impact on the environment
> being too great.
Now I am not going to argue about that. There is no better excuse than
to plead for protection on environment, right now this is the argument
for almost everything regardless of the truth behind it. But it is
great for marketing and for salving one's conscience. You are surely
smart enough to understand this.
And surely we do not want to talk about the quality of the manuals and
the tiny print out that comes with the HP 50G.

But thanks a lot for sharing you experiences. Having the opportunity
to learn from other experiences is always of great value.

> Some of the most successful games of all time: Wolfenstein 3D, Doom ..
> Were free to use, shareware. They made millions.
Oh come on, don´t you think I know that ?

> Ebay also has proven that the majority of people are honest.
Well, with all the fraud happening at ebay that might not be the best
example.

I do not assume that people are dishonest and I enjoyed having the
advantage to read Immanuel Kant in his original language.

> the card is only required to support your protection
That is something we can not discuss in public but there is a lot more
behind it than just supporting my protection.

> It takes time, people will crack it just for the fun of it.
I know that, but you are missing the point. If you are interested we
can discuss this privately.

> keep it that way instead of worrying about useless copy protection
So far it has been an interesting adventure and I hope it will
continue.

Having intelligent conversation and accepting the challenge always
sharpens the brain and leads to additional knowledge.

Greetings,
Andreas


From: Andreas Möller on
Hello Joel,

as my mail bounced back I assume that this is not you valid mail
address.

If you´re interested in continuing discussing parts of your arguments
privately drop me a line.

Greetings,
Andreas

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