comments on the new "treebrowser" for 50G
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From: Joel Koltner on 11 Apr 2008 13:00 "JYA" <nospam(a)nospam.blah> wrote in message news:47ff111b$0$2002$426a74cc(a)news.free.fr... > Is there much future in the future of calculator hardware really? I think there is. > Look at the eee PC , or the latest ultra-light laptop from HP. They don't > sale for much more than a HP50g. Yeah, but they also suck power like mad and don't have a decent keyboard for a calculator. Although I think you could get people to learn to plug in their calculators every day, I believe the average person would still want at least some "tens of hours" of battery life rather than the 2-4 that laptops get you. As for the keyboard, having a nicely labeled scientific calculator Bluetooth device might work. And I think it's been demonstrated nicely that there is a market for non-graphing but still powerful machines like the 35s as well. ---Joel
From: Joel Koltner on 11 Apr 2008 13:01 Hi Andreas, "Andreas M�ller" <andreas_moellerNOSPAM(a)gmx.de> wrote in message news:b5c01384-00e1-414b-8fde-9136acd7797d(a)k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com... "as my mail bounced back I assume that this is not you valid mail address." You have to replace the "DASH" with, um, a dash -- "-" "If you�re interested in continuing discussing parts of your arguments privately drop me a line." OK, thanks. ---Joel.
From: Joel Koltner on 11 Apr 2008 14:28 Hi Andreas, "let me put it that way: Ebay Germany published a printed magazin about frauds on Ebay Germany." Interesting. :-) You're correct that this isn't really the right group for such a discussion. Thanks for the mail! ---Joel
From: username localhost on 11 Apr 2008 14:46 On Apr 11, 3:19 am, JYA <nos...(a)nospam.blah> wrote: > Hi > > On 2008-04-11 16:15:34 +1000, username localhost > <username.localh...(a)gmail.com> said: > > > Thus the best hope for a continuation is to convince HP to wake-up and > > fully commit to their calculator line. Barring that, the next best > > hope is for another established company to contract hydrix and friends > > Is there much future in the future of calculator hardware really? The other answers about battery power and input methods are good reasons to assume the market will continue. I know it is generally far,far faster for me to enter an equation in either a TI-89 or HP50g than any of the main CASes currently out there. Also keep in mind the size difference. Some of the design goals you guys placed on EDGE development seem to indicate that you suspect low power, limited memory and performance embeded system calculators to exist for a while still to come. > If the future of calculator still exists, it will be on those kind of > machine, as software. > TI has taken the smart approach. They have designed their latest > calculator as a device that fills a gap, and the software is available > for either that machine (Nspire) or PC or Mac. NSpire isn't just a > calculator, it's a range of software running on various platform. > > And so far, what they've done is great (but I'm a bit biased on their > latest software obviously) > Well, that is to be expected. It feels odd though that you have worked on both HP and Ti-style calculators. I'm quite sure you are well aware of the philosophical differences in the two. That said, a solid base CAS design could fit either philosophy reasonably well, depending on the actual design.
From: Andreas Möller on 11 Apr 2008 16:35
Hello Raymond, creating a real test-drive version for a physical calculator won´t be that easy. Instead I would rather spent that time for improving the software. There is a reason for protection and is not because I am crazy or because I think that I am a better programmer than hackers out there. But, you can take the software from my website and run it in EMU48 for testing it. It can be safely assumed IMHO that every serious HP calculator user is familiar with it. EMU48 is for sure a great piece of work. Please be aware that the latest files are always in the 'Updates' area. They do behave exactly like their physical counterparts on a real calculator and have no restrictions. And of course data sets created in the emulator work on a real calculator and also vice versa. > I didn't explicitely write 'equations' in the above paragraph, > since you could use TreeBrowser for a wide variety > of organized data. Yes, this is possible. Not for the average user at the moment, but I am working on that. Greetings, Andreas |