From: Phil Loper on
Hi Meinolf,

Yes, we did have an old DC crash, which we replaced with dc1 and we also
replaced our backup dc with dc2. Both were done a while back, but I do
think the problems started about that time. Both dc1 and dc2 are gc's.

DC2 is not a DNS server. We do have another DNS server, so I went ahead
and changed both of them to use DC1 as the preferred and the other dns
server as the secondary, as you suggested. Since they were both set to
use the third server as preferred, could that have caused some of the
problems? Should I also set all the client pc's the same way?

I will work on getting the rras moved to another box.

Thanks

Meinolf Weber wrote:
> Hello Phil,
>
> Did you have any major changes before or a crashed DC which is not
> longer available? Is the second DC also Global catalog server?
>
> DC1 is DNS server and what about DC2 also? For DC1 set preferred DNS to
> itself and secondary the other. If DC2 is no DNS set it also as
> preferred to DC1 and second to the other.
>
> Also it is not recommended to use a DC multihomed like you did with the
> PPP connection. Better choose another member server for this and not a DC.
>
> Event id 5723:
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5723&eventno=106&source=NETLOGON&phase=1
>
>
> Event id 5719:
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5719&eventno=104&source=NETLOGON&phase=1
>
>
> http://www.chicagotech.net/wineventid.htm
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310339
>
> Event id 5790
> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5790&eventno=3984&source=Netlogon&phase=1
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Thanks for your help. Here is the info you requested:
>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------ Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc1
>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C996B Gigabit Server NIC
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-5E-57-83-8E
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.6
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>> 172.21.71.6
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>> PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.69.101
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------
>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>
>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc2
>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>
>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
>>> Ethernet
>>> #2
>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-FC-87-A2
>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.13
>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>> 172.21.71.6
>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------
>>> Event Type: Error
>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 5723
>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>> Time: 3:28:33 PM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: DC1
>>> Description:
>>> The session setup from the computer 078_JOHNS failed because there is
>>> no trust account in the security database for this computer. The name
>>> of the account referenced in the security database is 078_JOHNS$.
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>> Data:
>>> 0000: 8b 01 00 c0 �..�
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------
>>> Event Type: Error
>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 5719
>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: DC1
>>> Description:
>>> No Windows NT or Windows 2000 Domain Controller is available for
>>> domain DOMAIN. The following error occurred:
>>> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>>> request.
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>> Data:
>>> 0000: 5e 00 00 c0 ^..�
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------
>>> Event Type: Error
>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>> Event Category: None
>>> Event ID: 5790
>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>> User: N/A
>>> Computer: DC1
>>> Description:
>>> No suitable Domain Controller is available for domain 078_JOHNS. An
>>> NT4 or older domain controller is available but it cannot be used for
>>> authentication purposes in the Windows 2000 or newer domain that this
>>> computer is a member of. The following error occurred:
>>> Access is denied.
>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>> Data:
>>> 0000: 22 00 00 c0 "..�
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ------
>> Meinolf Weber wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Phil,
>>>
>>> Please post an ipconfig /all from both DC's. The systemlog entry
>>> shows that in the even viewer you have some errors. Check trhem and
>>> post them complete here.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> I am trying to figure out why my second domain controller (dc2) does
>>>> not take over when my first one (dc1) is down. Both are running
>>>> Windows 2000 Server. I get these errors when I run dcdiag on dc1:
>>>>
>>>> Starting test: frssysvol
>>>> Error: No record of File Replication System, SYSVOL started.
>>>> The Active Directory may be prevented from starting.
>>>> ......................... DC1 passed test frssysvol
>>>> Starting test: systemlog
>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000165B
>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:28:33
>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000169E
>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:34:33
>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>> ......................... DC1 failed test systemlog
>>>> can anyone tell me what these errors mean? dcdiag does not seem to
>>>> exist on dc2, is it something I need to install?
>
>
From: Meinolf Weber on
Hello Phil,

How did you remove the crashed dc from the domain? According to this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us

Best regards

Meinolf Weber
Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers
no rights.
** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm

> Hi Meinolf,
>
> Yes, we did have an old DC crash, which we replaced with dc1 and we
> also replaced our backup dc with dc2. Both were done a while back,
> but I do think the problems started about that time. Both dc1 and dc2
> are gc's.
>
> DC2 is not a DNS server. We do have another DNS server, so I went
> ahead and changed both of them to use DC1 as the preferred and the
> other dns server as the secondary, as you suggested. Since they were
> both set to use the third server as preferred, could that have caused
> some of the problems? Should I also set all the client pc's the same
> way?
>
> I will work on getting the rras moved to another box.
>
> Thanks
>
> Meinolf Weber wrote:
>
>> Hello Phil,
>>
>> Did you have any major changes before or a crashed DC which is not
>> longer available? Is the second DC also Global catalog server?
>>
>> DC1 is DNS server and what about DC2 also? For DC1 set preferred DNS
>> to itself and secondary the other. If DC2 is no DNS set it also as
>> preferred to DC1 and second to the other.
>>
>> Also it is not recommended to use a DC multihomed like you did with
>> the PPP connection. Better choose another member server for this and
>> not a DC.
>>
>> Event id 5723:
>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5723&eventno=106&source=NE
>> TLOGON&phase=1
>> Event id 5719:
>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5719&eventno=104&source=NE
>> TLOGON&phase=1
>> http://www.chicagotech.net/wineventid.htm
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310339
>>
>> Event id 5790
>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5790&eventno=3984&source=N
>> etlogon&phase=1
>> Best regards
>>
>> Meinolf Weber
>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>> confers no rights.
>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>> Thanks for your help. Here is the info you requested:
>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -- ------ Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>>
>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc1
>>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C996B Gigabit Server NIC
>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-5E-57-83-8E
>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.6
>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>> 172.21.71.6
>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>> PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:
>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.69.101
>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ------
>>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc2
>>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
>>>> Ethernet
>>>> #2
>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-FC-87-A2
>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.13
>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>> 172.21.71.6
>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ------
>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>> Event Category: None
>>>> Event ID: 5723
>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>> Time: 3:28:33 PM
>>>> User: N/A
>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>> Description:
>>>> The session setup from the computer 078_JOHNS failed because there
>>>> is
>>>> no trust account in the security database for this computer. The
>>>> name
>>>> of the account referenced in the security database is 078_JOHNS$.
>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>> Data:
>>>> 0000: 8b 01 00 c0 <..�
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ------
>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>> Event Category: None
>>>> Event ID: 5719
>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>>> User: N/A
>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>> Description:
>>>> No Windows NT or Windows 2000 Domain Controller is available for
>>>> domain DOMAIN. The following error occurred:
>>>> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>>>> request.
>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>> Data:
>>>> 0000: 5e 00 00 c0 ^..�
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ------
>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>> Event Category: None
>>>> Event ID: 5790
>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>>> User: N/A
>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>> Description:
>>>> No suitable Domain Controller is available for domain 078_JOHNS. An
>>>> NT4 or older domain controller is available but it cannot be used
>>>> for
>>>> authentication purposes in the Windows 2000 or newer domain that
>>>> this
>>>> computer is a member of. The following error occurred:
>>>> Access is denied.
>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>> Data:
>>>> 0000: 22 00 00 c0 "..�
>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> --
>>>> ------
>>> Meinolf Weber wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Phil,
>>>>
>>>> Please post an ipconfig /all from both DC's. The systemlog entry
>>>> shows that in the even viewer you have some errors. Check trhem and
>>>> post them complete here.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>> and
>>>> confers no rights.
>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>> I am trying to figure out why my second domain controller (dc2)
>>>>> does not take over when my first one (dc1) is down. Both are
>>>>> running Windows 2000 Server. I get these errors when I run dcdiag
>>>>> on dc1:
>>>>>
>>>>> Starting test: frssysvol
>>>>> Error: No record of File Replication System, SYSVOL started.
>>>>> The Active Directory may be prevented from starting.
>>>>> ......................... DC1 passed test frssysvol
>>>>> Starting test: systemlog
>>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000165B
>>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:28:33
>>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000169E
>>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:34:33
>>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>>> ......................... DC1 failed test systemlog
>>>>> can anyone tell me what these errors mean? dcdiag does not seem
>>>>> to
>>>>> exist on dc2, is it something I need to install?


From: Joseph on
I have a pretty close issue one day and it took me a long time to figure out
what was the problem ...mine was as simple as this ...both servers have a
different time stamp (was off by a mere couple of minutes -- believe or not)
.... once I ensure all servers have the same time it helped my case ...
This should not take a lot of time to check ..

Joseph

"Paul Bergson [MVP-DS]" wrote:

> It sounds like you have problems with the dc being started up on dc1. Check
> the event log after you have started up this dc. I'll bet it states
> something like "DC not starting sysvol not shared out" it will have an
> event log message to go with it. Post any errors from the Event Log back
> here.
>
> If you don't have the support tools installed on dc2, install them from your
> server install disk.
> d:\support\tools\setup.exe
>
>
> --
> Paul Bergson
> MVP - Directory Services
> MCTS, MCT, MCSE, MCSA, Security+, BS CSci
> 2008, 2003, 2000 (Early Achiever), NT4
>
> http://www.pbbergs.com
>
> Please no e-mails, any questions should be posted in the NewsGroup
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Phil Loper" <phil(a)gracelivingcenters.com> wrote in message
> news:uXB3tdYpIHA.1580(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >I am trying to figure out why my second domain controller (dc2) does not
> >take over when my first one (dc1) is down. Both are running Windows 2000
> >Server. I get these errors when I run dcdiag on dc1:
> >
> > Starting test: frssysvol
> > Error: No record of File Replication System, SYSVOL started.
> > The Active Directory may be prevented from starting.
> > ......................... DC1 passed test frssysvol
> >
> > Starting test: systemlog
> > An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000165B
> > Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:28:33
> > (Event String could not be retrieved)
> > An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000169E
> > Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:34:33
> > (Event String could not be retrieved)
> > ......................... DC1 failed test systemlog
> >
> > can anyone tell me what these errors mean? dcdiag does not seem to exist
> > on dc2, is it something I need to install?
>
>
>
From: Phil Loper on
Hello Meinolf,

I'm not sure how we did the removal, but I went thru all the steps in
the link you provided, and did find the old server listed in the active
directory sites and services, in dns under the reverse lookup zone, and
in wins. I deleted it from all three locations. Hopefully these things
I've done today will fix our problems. I will shut it down this
weekend to see. Thanks for your help!


Meinolf Weber wrote:
> Hello Phil,
>
> How did you remove the crashed dc from the domain? According to this:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555846/en-us
>
> Best regards
>
> Meinolf Weber
> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
> confers no rights.
> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>
>> Hi Meinolf,
>>
>> Yes, we did have an old DC crash, which we replaced with dc1 and we
>> also replaced our backup dc with dc2. Both were done a while back,
>> but I do think the problems started about that time. Both dc1 and dc2
>> are gc's.
>>
>> DC2 is not a DNS server. We do have another DNS server, so I went
>> ahead and changed both of them to use DC1 as the preferred and the
>> other dns server as the secondary, as you suggested. Since they were
>> both set to use the third server as preferred, could that have caused
>> some of the problems? Should I also set all the client pc's the same
>> way?
>>
>> I will work on getting the rras moved to another box.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Meinolf Weber wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Phil,
>>>
>>> Did you have any major changes before or a crashed DC which is not
>>> longer available? Is the second DC also Global catalog server?
>>>
>>> DC1 is DNS server and what about DC2 also? For DC1 set preferred DNS
>>> to itself and secondary the other. If DC2 is no DNS set it also as
>>> preferred to DC1 and second to the other.
>>>
>>> Also it is not recommended to use a DC multihomed like you did with
>>> the PPP connection. Better choose another member server for this and
>>> not a DC.
>>>
>>> Event id 5723:
>>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5723&eventno=106&source=NE
>>> TLOGON&phase=1
>>> Event id 5719:
>>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5719&eventno=104&source=NE
>>> TLOGON&phase=1
>>> http://www.chicagotech.net/wineventid.htm
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310339
>>>
>>> Event id 5790
>>> http://www.eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=5790&eventno=3984&source=N
>>> etlogon&phase=1
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Meinolf Weber
>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and
>>> confers no rights.
>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>> Thanks for your help. Here is the info you requested:
>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -- ------ Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>>>
>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc1
>>>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com 3C996B Gigabit Server NIC
>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-5E-57-83-8E
>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.6
>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>>> 172.21.71.6
>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>>> PPP adapter RAS Server (Dial In) Interface:
>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.69.101
>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 127.0.0.1
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Windows 2000 IP Configuration
>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : dc2
>>>>> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gracelivingcenters.com
>>>>> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:
>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
>>>>> Ethernet
>>>>> #2
>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-72-FC-87-A2
>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.13
>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.254.0
>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.1
>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>>> 172.21.71.6
>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 172.21.71.23
>>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . . . . : 172.21.70.2
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>>> Event Category: None
>>>>> Event ID: 5723
>>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>>> Time: 3:28:33 PM
>>>>> User: N/A
>>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> The session setup from the computer 078_JOHNS failed because there
>>>>> is
>>>>> no trust account in the security database for this computer. The
>>>>> name
>>>>> of the account referenced in the security database is 078_JOHNS$.
>>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>>> Data:
>>>>> 0000: 8b 01 00 c0 <..�
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>>> Event Category: None
>>>>> Event ID: 5719
>>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>>>> User: N/A
>>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> No Windows NT or Windows 2000 Domain Controller is available for
>>>>> domain DOMAIN. The following error occurred:
>>>>> There are currently no logon servers available to service the logon
>>>>> request.
>>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>>> Data:
>>>>> 0000: 5e 00 00 c0 ^..�
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>>> Event Type: Error
>>>>> Event Source: NETLOGON
>>>>> Event Category: None
>>>>> Event ID: 5790
>>>>> Date: 4/23/2008
>>>>> Time: 3:34:33 PM
>>>>> User: N/A
>>>>> Computer: DC1
>>>>> Description:
>>>>> No suitable Domain Controller is available for domain 078_JOHNS. An
>>>>> NT4 or older domain controller is available but it cannot be used
>>>>> for
>>>>> authentication purposes in the Windows 2000 or newer domain that
>>>>> this
>>>>> computer is a member of. The following error occurred:
>>>>> Access is denied.
>>>>> For more information, see Help and Support Center at
>>>>> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
>>>>> Data:
>>>>> 0000: 22 00 00 c0 "..�
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------
>>>> Meinolf Weber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Phil,
>>>>>
>>>>> Please post an ipconfig /all from both DC's. The systemlog entry
>>>>> shows that in the even viewer you have some errors. Check trhem and
>>>>> post them complete here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Meinolf Weber
>>>>> Disclaimer: This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
>>>>> and
>>>>> confers no rights.
>>>>> ** Please do NOT email, only reply to Newsgroups
>>>>> ** HELP us help YOU!!! http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
>>>>>> I am trying to figure out why my second domain controller (dc2)
>>>>>> does not take over when my first one (dc1) is down. Both are
>>>>>> running Windows 2000 Server. I get these errors when I run dcdiag
>>>>>> on dc1:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting test: frssysvol
>>>>>> Error: No record of File Replication System, SYSVOL started.
>>>>>> The Active Directory may be prevented from starting.
>>>>>> ......................... DC1 passed test frssysvol
>>>>>> Starting test: systemlog
>>>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000165B
>>>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:28:33
>>>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>>>> An Error Event occured. EventID: 0x0000169E
>>>>>> Time Generated: 04/23/2008 15:34:33
>>>>>> (Event String could not be retrieved)
>>>>>> ......................... DC1 failed test systemlog
>>>>>> can anyone tell me what these errors mean? dcdiag does not seem
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> exist on dc2, is it something I need to install?
>
>
From: Ace Fekay [MVP] on
In news:OxGiO4ipIHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl,
Phil Loper <phil(a)nospam-gracelivingcenters.com> typed:
> Hi Meinolf,
>
> Yes, we did have an old DC crash, which we replaced with dc1 and we
> also replaced our backup dc with dc2. Both were done a while back,
> but I do think the problems started about that time. Both dc1 and
> dc2 are gc's.
> DC2 is not a DNS server. We do have another DNS server, so I went
> ahead and changed both of them to use DC1 as the preferred and the
> other dns server as the secondary, as you suggested. Since they were
> both set to use the third server as preferred, could that have caused
> some of the problems? Should I also set all the client pc's the same
> way?
> I will work on getting the rras moved to another box.
>
> Thanks

What is the other (third) DNS server? Is it a DC as well? How many DCs total
exist?

If it is not a DC, how is it getting a copy of the AD zone? Is it a
Secondary zone?


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Regards,
Ace

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MVP Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Microsoft Certified Trainer

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