From: "Administrator Beckspaced.com" on
hello there,

i'm running a postfix 2.4.6 on a opensuse box.
postfix has amawis-new with spamassasin installed ...

since a few weeks one of my email accounts gets bombarded with thousands
of SPAM mailer daemon error bounces.
could not deliver message ... bla bla bla ...

it's getting really annoying as there are thousands of error bounces
coming in every single day.

looks like that the email address ended up on some SPAM mailing lists
.... adn now the mailbox receives all this error message junk

so ... what's the best strategy to get rid off this problem?

already had a quick look ... and the error bounces come in with an empty
<> from address ...
which seems to be standard for this ... and by default postfix doesn't
block empty from addresses <>

so what's the best thing to do to get rid of those thousand error email
bounces?

thing is that the customer urgently needs this email account as it is
signed up at many service providers.

could i do a header check for this single email account and reject the
empty from address <> for that email account only?
what are my options? what's the smartest thing to do??

thanks a lot for your help & service

with best regards
becki

From: Robert Schetterer on
Am 09.07.2010 12:35, schrieb Administrator Beckspaced.com:
> hello there,
>
> i'm running a postfix 2.4.6 on a opensuse box.
> postfix has amawis-new with spamassasin installed ...
>
> since a few weeks one of my email accounts gets bombarded with thousands
> of SPAM mailer daemon error bounces.
> could not deliver message ... bla bla bla ...
>
> it's getting really annoying as there are thousands of error bounces
> coming in every single day.
>
> looks like that the email address ended up on some SPAM mailing lists
> ... adn now the mailbox receives all this error message junk
>
> so ... what's the best strategy to get rid off this problem?
>
> already had a quick look ... and the error bounces come in with an empty
> <> from address ...
> which seems to be standard for this ... and by default postfix doesn't
> block empty from addresses <>
>
> so what's the best thing to do to get rid of those thousand error email
> bounces?
>
> thing is that the customer urgently needs this email account as it is
> signed up at many service providers.
>
> could i do a header check for this single email account and reject the
> empty from address <> for that email account only?
> what are my options? what's the smartest thing to do??
>
> thanks a lot for your help & service
>
> with best regards
> becki
>

if it always the same host sending backscatter
simple block the host by access list and/or firewall

lets see some logs, there are many way to deal with backscatter

--
Best Regards

MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria

From: "Administrator Beckspaced.com" on
hello robert,

thanks a lot for your quick reply ...
actually it is not always the same IP or host sending the error bounces ...
the bounces are sent from hundred of different IP addresses ...

any more idea?

thanks for your help & fun
becki


below some logs you requested ... change the real email account to
spamUser(a)domain.com ->

Jul 8 12:20:27 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19857]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
crusty.hosts.net.nz[210.48.108.195]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Access denied; from=<>
to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=SMTP helo=<crusty.hosts.net.nz>
Jul 8 12:22:08 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19859]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
mailx.nlabs.de[92.79.50.220]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>: Recipient
address rejected: Access denied; from=<> to=<spamUser(a)domain.com>
proto=SMTP helo=<mailx.nlabs.de>
Jul 8 12:22:48 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19854]: warning: 222.254.188.229:
address not listed for hostname localhost
Jul 8 12:23:28 gehirn postfix/smtpd[18358]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
port-87-234-220-121.static.qsc.de[87.234.220.121]: 554 5.7.1
<spamUser(a)domain.com>: Recipient address rejected: Access denied;
from=<> to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=SMTP helo=<mforward>
Jul 8 12:26:22 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19854]: setting up TLS connection
from mail.aydin.edu.tr[212.174.169.8]
Jul 8 12:26:22 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19854]: TLS connection established
from mail.aydin.edu.tr[212.174.169.8]: TLSv1 with cipher
DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)
Jul 8 12:26:22 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19854]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
mail.aydin.edu.tr[212.174.169.8]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Access denied; from=<>
to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<Mailsrv.aydin.edu.tr>
Jul 8 12:27:57 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19850]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
svhqgtw02.ethiopianairlines.com[213.55.83.14]: 554 5.7.1
<spamUser(a)domain.com>: Recipient address rejected: Access denied;
from=<> to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=SMTP
helo=<svhqgtw02.ethiopianairlines.com>
Jul 8 12:27:58 gehirn postfix/smtpd[18899]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
svhqgtw02.ethiopianairlines.com[213.55.83.14]: 554 5.7.1
<spamUser(a)domain.com>: Recipient address rejected: Access denied;
from=<> to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=SMTP
helo=<svhqgtw02.ethiopianairlines.com>
Jul 8 12:28:27 gehirn postfix/smtpd[18358]: A565C150A7D:
client=relay02.is.co.za[196.35.6.70]
Jul 8 12:28:31 gehirn postfix/smtpd[20525]: 78BEC150A7F:
client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 8 12:28:35 gehirn postfix/smtpd[18899]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
mx2.lost-oasis.net[80.67.160.52]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Access denied; from=<>
to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=SMTP helo=<mx2.lost-oasis.net>
Jul 8 12:29:23 gehirn postfix/smtpd[18899]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
defer114.ocn.ad.jp[122.28.15.169]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>:
Recipient address rejected: Access denied; from=<>
to=<spamUser(a)domain.com> proto=ESMTP helo=<defer114.ocn.ad.jp>
Jul 8 12:29:49 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19850]: E4B86150AE9:
client=unknown[184.154.34.69]
Jul 8 12:29:56 gehirn postfix/smtpd[20525]: 8B7F4150AF6:
client=localhost[127.0.0.1]
Jul 8 12:30:43 gehirn postfix/smtpd[19854]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
post.vrus.de[85.182.133.62]: 554 5.7.1 <spamUser(a)domain.com>: Recipient
address rejected: Access denied; from=<>

On 7/9/2010 12:42, Robert Schetterer wrote:
> Am 09.07.2010 12:35, schrieb Administrator Beckspaced.com:
>> hello there,
>>
>> i'm running a postfix 2.4.6 on a opensuse box.
>> postfix has amawis-new with spamassasin installed ...
>>
>> since a few weeks one of my email accounts gets bombarded with thousands
>> of SPAM mailer daemon error bounces.
>> could not deliver message ... bla bla bla ...
>>
>> it's getting really annoying as there are thousands of error bounces
>> coming in every single day.
>>
>> looks like that the email address ended up on some SPAM mailing lists
>> ... adn now the mailbox receives all this error message junk
>>
>> so ... what's the best strategy to get rid off this problem?
>>
>> already had a quick look ... and the error bounces come in with an empty
>> <> from address ...
>> which seems to be standard for this ... and by default postfix doesn't
>> block empty from addresses<>
>>
>> so what's the best thing to do to get rid of those thousand error email
>> bounces?
>>
>> thing is that the customer urgently needs this email account as it is
>> signed up at many service providers.
>>
>> could i do a header check for this single email account and reject the
>> empty from address<> for that email account only?
>> what are my options? what's the smartest thing to do??
>>
>> thanks a lot for your help& service
>>
>> with best regards
>> becki
>>
> if it always the same host sending backscatter
> simple block the host by access list and/or firewall
>
> lets see some logs, there are many way to deal with backscatter
>

From: "Kammen van, Marco, Springer SBM NL" on
>From: owner-postfix-users(a)postfix.org
[mailto:owner-postfix-users(a)postfix.org] On Behalf Of Administrator
Beckspaced.com
>Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:52 PM
>To: Robert Schetterer
>Cc: postfix-users(a)postfix.org
>Subject: Re: email account bombarded with SPAM error bounces - what to
do?
>
> hello robert,

>thanks a lot for your quick reply ...
>actually it is not always the same IP or host sending the error bounces
....
>the bounces are sent from hundred of different IP addresses ...

>any more idea?

>thanks for your help & fun
>becki

Hi Robert,

Not sure if its related to your issue.
But there is a big spam/virus attack going on, where messages look like
NDR's but they aren't.
Various big anti spam vendors are having serious issues stopping this.

Marco van Kammen
Springer Science+Business Media
System Manager & Postmaster
van Godewijckstraat 30 | 3311 GX
Office Number: 05E21
Dordrecht
The Netherlands
www.springer.com

From: wolfgang on
In an older episode (Friday, 9. July 2010), Kammen van, Marco, Springer
SBM NL wrote:


> But there is a big spam/virus attack going on, where messages look
> like NDR's but they aren't.
> Various big anti spam vendors are having serious issues stopping
> this.

Could you provide a URL where more details are available?

Regards,

wolfgang