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From: heavytull on 17 Apr 2008 06:53
I'm currently using slack 12.0 with kde 3.5.7, the latest flashplayer and
the latest firefox.

everytime i watch some flash video there 3/4 chance that firefox or
konqueror freezes so i have to kill.

sometimes it happens that the whole X window freezes as it happened just
now. the mouse pointer was still working.

I consider that flash player is a source of instability.

i have seen someone on these groups complaining of something similar.
From: birre on 17 Apr 2008 09:46
On 2008-04-17 12:53, heavytull wrote:
> I'm currently using slack 12.0 with kde 3.5.7, the latest flashplayer and
> the latest firefox.
>
> everytime i watch some flash video there 3/4 chance that firefox or
> konqueror freezes so i have to kill.
>
> sometimes it happens that the whole X window freezes as it happened just
> now. the mouse pointer was still working.
>
> I consider that flash player is a source of instability.
>
> i have seen someone on these groups complaining of something similar.

This is not only the latest flash, the bug is more then a year old, and I have
it on 3 of my 4 machines.

The workaround is to open the first video in a new tab in the browser, and when
the video is over, don't close it, just park that tab and continue to use the
first one. (or new tabs)
The freeze will happen when you close the last flash player.
(something goes bad with alsa I think)

/bb
From: heavytull on 17 Apr 2008 10:19
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:46:23 +0200, birre wrote:

> The workaround is to open the first video in a new tab in the browser,
> and when the video is over, don't close it, just park that tab and
> continue to use the first one. (or new tabs)
> The freeze will happen when you close the last flash player. (something
> goes bad with alsa I think)
ok i will do that.
but what tells you that the freeze is due to alsa?
have ever tried to run linux without alsa?
>
> /bb


I'm wondeing whether adobe hasn't intentionnaly included this bug to
disourage the use of linux. adobe is one of the biggest company in
software.
there is another bug with flashplayer: when you go on websites that use a
flash animation with dropdown menus just above the animation and appear
behing the animation. this hapens only when you use firefox.
From: birre on 17 Apr 2008 12:22
On 2008-04-17 16:19, heavytull wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:46:23 +0200, birre wrote:
>
>> The workaround is to open the first video in a new tab in the browser,
>> and when the video is over, don't close it, just park that tab and
>> continue to use the first one. (or new tabs)
>> The freeze will happen when you close the last flash player. (something
>> goes bad with alsa I think)
> ok i will do that.
> but what tells you that the freeze is due to alsa?
> have ever tried to run linux without alsa?
>> /bb
>
>
> I'm wondeing whether adobe hasn't intentionnaly included this bug to
> disourage the use of linux. adobe is one of the biggest company in
> software.
> there is another bug with flashplayer: when you go on websites that use a
> flash animation with dropdown menus just above the animation and appear
> behing the animation. this hapens only when you use firefox.

I was reading somewhere long ago, that someone traced the problem to alsa,
but the problem is probably not in alsa, but maybe how flash close or not close
the device.

Flash is doomed anyway, Microsoft will push out that silverlight to the masses,
and the windows drones will follow, and we others have not stand up and defend
a vendor that left us in the cold with version 7 for a year when all web
contents required version 8.

They only care about the masses, the windows users, that will leave them when
Microsoft wish.

The only chance they have is to make flash completely open, so it can be used
on free systems, and for all devices as a global standard, but they don't
understand it until it's to late, and I guess that has passed soon, since
all Microsoft has to do is to make sure flash don't work on windows by default,
that method has been used with success on all other open media formats, like
ogg theora for example, nobody can publish in that format since they will get
complaining windows users that don't know how to download a working player.

Maybe you should test gnash, it should work for google sites at least.
But then you also have the web sites run by real Microsoft monkeys so they
refuse to discover support for flash at all if you don't use windows.


/bb

From: Ivan Marsh on 17 Apr 2008 12:54
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:22:15 +0200, birre wrote:

> On 2008-04-17 16:19, heavytull wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:46:23 +0200, birre wrote:
>>
>>> The workaround is to open the first video in a new tab in the browser,
>>> and when the video is over, don't close it, just park that tab and
>>> continue to use the first one. (or new tabs)
>>> The freeze will happen when you close the last flash player. (something
>>> goes bad with alsa I think)
>> ok i will do that.
>> but what tells you that the freeze is due to alsa?
>> have ever tried to run linux without alsa?
>>> /bb
>>
>>
>> I'm wondeing whether adobe hasn't intentionnaly included this bug to
>> disourage the use of linux. adobe is one of the biggest company in
>> software.
>> there is another bug with flashplayer: when you go on websites that use a
>> flash animation with dropdown menus just above the animation and appear
>> behing the animation. this hapens only when you use firefox.
>
> Flash is doomed anyway, Microsoft will push out that silverlight to the masses,
> and the windows drones will follow, and we others have not stand up and defend
> a vendor that left us in the cold with version 7 for a year when all web
> contents required version 8.

I think that's more likely to be up to people like YouTube.

--
"Remain calm, we're here to protect you!"

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