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From: Ryan Davis on 4 Jul 2008 13:39

On Jul 4, 2008, at 10:31 , S2 wrote:

> My company today decided to ditch ruby development and to develop
> new web
> applications only with Java or .net.
> Current RoR applications will be migrated to Java.
> Sigh. No more ruby for me (in office hours).

most people at this stage would be posting their resume, not a
question about "good" java frameworks. :P


From: phlip on 4 Jul 2008 13:49
S2 wrote:

> My company today decided to ditch ruby development and to develop new web
> applications only with Java or .net.

Quit.

Were you using RoR with unit tests?

> Current RoR applications will be migrated to Java.

Was there a rationale? Did an executive read a magazine article or something?

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Phlip
From: Robert Dober on 4 Jul 2008 14:04
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby(a)zenspider.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 4, 2008, at 10:31 , S2 wrote:
>
>> My company today decided to ditch ruby development and to develop new web
>> applications only with Java or .net.
>> Current RoR applications will be migrated to Java.
>> Sigh. No more ruby for me (in office hours).
>
> most people at this stage would be posting their resume, not a question
> about "good" java frameworks. :P
>

Maybe, but as someone who certainly is not like most people (with the
exception that I guess that many people are exactly like this, but
this would lead to a tangent I am afraid) I see an alternative.

Would you think you could some jar files like jruby.jar ? ;)

Cheers
Robert





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From: Robert Dober on 4 Jul 2008 14:07
On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 8:01 PM, S2 <x(a)y.z> wrote:
> phlip wrote:
>
>> Quit.
>
> i probably will.
>
>> Were you using RoR with unit tests?
>
> no. everything was fine actually. apps where developed quickly, used "cool"
> ajax stuff that excited our clients and developers where quite happy.
>
>>> Current RoR applications will be migrated to Java.
>>
>> Was there a rationale?
>
> no.
Of course there was, you stated it yourself above, "developers were
quite happy", sorry for my pessimistic look at this.
Apart of the idea that jruby might come in handy this decision really
looks odd to me.
Maybe somebody wants to sink the ship? Well at least, if they do, they
seem to be good at it sigh.
R.

From: phlip on 4 Jul 2008 14:23
S2 wrote:

>> Were you using RoR with unit tests?
>
> no. everything was fine actually. apps where developed quickly, used "cool"
> ajax stuff that excited our clients and developers where quite happy.

You would have been faster and more ... assertive ... with unit tests.

Use assert_javascript to test Ajax.

Your Java and .NET offerings will limp far behind RoR's test abilities.

>>> Current RoR applications will be migrated to Java.
>> Was there a rationale?
>
> no.

You have a boss who is allowed to decree things without giving a rationale?

> probably. i think the main reason is that management does not want to have 3
> separate development lines (RoR, Java and .NET) for Web apps. I think they
> want to unify the development Frameworks/languages so they can relocate
> Staff from one project to an other without loosing to much "learn" time.

So, no pair programming, and they want to make knowledge transfer easier by
reducing the amount of knowledge required. Gotcha!
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