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From: 0junk4me on 27 Jul 2008 16:47 BAck in the day when I operated a good midsized rig suitable for small auditoriums and clubs I had other band members available, and mainly needed just some casual labor type help if additional was needed over and above the aforementioned band's sound man etc. we're preparing to hire a third person for our remote truck. WHen recording or mixing for broadcast at a concert or other event this third person will be our hands and eyes on site. THerefore we need more than just casual labor, or at least someone who's trainable. THat brings me to the reason behind this post. Anybody who operates a sound reinforcement operation of any size is inundated with potential employees wanting to learn the business, and can hire the potentials that show any promise at all for basic grunt help and move those up that show promise. HOwever, I don't need half a dozen, I just need one. HEnce, I'm looking for suggestions from pros on how to sort out the chaff from the wheat. Back when I worked for an sr company in the midwest the man ended up discarding about 50% of those he hired for grunt help. I don't have time to fool around and want to get it right the first time. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider
From: George's ProSound Company on 27 Jul 2008 18:47 I don't have time to fool around and want to get it > right the first time. > > Hire someone from another company. now as to how I find help, first I "almost " never ask some one to work I let it be known I have work, and wit for them to ask, toshow a tiny bit of desire and initive. I tell them being on time is critical ifthey are not on time, I remind them to not bother being late again once I have someone that shows desire and understands how to be on time the rest is easy its important not to overpay them, it really rubs your other experianced crew the wrong way, plus it leaves you with nowhere to go should they actualiy become a team member I think if you have enough of the kind of work a trained engineer likes, you will have no trouble hireing help, as long as you willing to pay a "living " wage a good man/woman is worth every penny George
From: Denny Strauser on 27 Jul 2008 19:34 0junk4me(a)bellsouth.net wrote: > we're preparing to hire a third person for our remote truck. WHen recording or > mixing for broadcast at a concert or other event this third person will be our > hands and eyes on site. > THerefore we need more than just casual labor, or at least > someone who's trainable. > > Back when I worked for an sr company in the midwest the man > ended up discarding about 50% of those he hired for grunt > help. I don't have time to fool around and want to get it > right the first time. When I go out on the road, I have to find a substitute to cover my house gig. Even experienced engineers are often disappointing at times. My call list includes 22 sound engineers in the Pittsburgh area. My top choices are often busy working at other clubs, working with sound/production companies, or on tour. The best advice is to offer enough money and shows to hire a quality engineer. If you don't have anyone in mind, call people in the business that you know, respect & trust for referrals. And hire them for a probationary period in case they don't work out. Good luck, you'll need it. It's hard to find good help. -Denny
From: 0junk4me on 27 Jul 2008 20:37 On 2008-07-27 bmoas(a)yahoo.com said: > >I don't have time to fool around and want to get it >> right the first time. >Hire someone from another company. >now as to how I find help, first I "almost " never ask some one to >work I let it be known I have work, and wit for them to ask, toshow >a tiny bit of desire and initive. YEp, as we plan to do it. WE're not waiting for them to ask. MOst of these positions will be quite a bit of labor, the near the stage hand instead of actual engineering. tWo of us in the box at rear of truck will actually be doing the "engineering" part, but I"ll need somebody that can understand if I tell them to move a microphone, or go to the splitter rack and lift the ground on channel xx iso B, etc. HOwever, this is a good gig for someone who has an interest and wants some training. >I tell them being on time is critical >ifthey are not on time, I remind them to not bother being late again YEp a lot like my philosophy when managing a restaurant and nightclub in my younger days. My corollary to that was that if I have to tell you what your job is over and over again I don't need you. >once I have someone that shows desire and understands how to be on >time the rest is easy >its important not to overpay them, it really rubs your other >experianced crew the wrong way, plus it leaves you with nowhere to >go should they actualiy become a team member YEp that's what we're looking for, is to train a team member. tHis is third wheel. We're not hiring full crew as sr provider would need. REmote audio truck, two people in control room, one proximate to the stage to follow instructions, and of course help with setup and pack. >a good man/woman is worth every penny THat's our plan, and to be where we can provide an employee a living wage. Points we're going to look for during the interview part of the process are: Basic attributes: Ability to lift/carry approx. 50 lb safely. Good eyesight/hearing good overall health. Professional attire grooming and attitude appropriate to the job. COmmunicates well with others positive attitude Takes criticism constructively Follows instructions Eager to learn TOlerant of others and their beliefs. Demonstrate average or above intellect/intelligence. of good character; i.e. bondable, no criminal record. GOod driving record, cdl preferred. Basic production knowledge WIll teach/train if necessary. Audio interconnection types and applications; Stage location terminology basic electrical interconnection knowledge. Basic knowledge of construction/mechanical Basic safety knowledge Can teach the second set, but by the time you're an adult most of the first set's either there or not. WE plan on offering internships eventually, and this could be a good opportunity for a young person who wants to learn the engineering side of the business from the ground up. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider
From: 0junk4me on 27 Jul 2008 20:37
denny wrote: >> we're preparing to hire a third person for our remote truck. WHen >recording or >> mixing for broadcast at a concert or other event this third >person will be our >> hands and eyes on site. >> THerefore we need more than just casual labor, or at least >> someone who's trainable. >> Back when I worked for an sr company in the midwest the man >> ended up discarding about 50% of those he hired for grunt >> help. I don't have time to fool around and want to get it >> right the first time. >When I go out on the road, I have to find a substitute to cover my >house gig. Even experienced engineers are often disappointing at >times. My call list includes 22 sound engineers in the Pittsburgh >area. My top choices are often busy working at other clubs, working >with sound/production companies, or on tour. >The best advice is to offer enough money and shows to hire a quality >engineer. If you don't have anyone in mind, call people in the >business that you know, respect & trust for referrals. And hire >them for a probationary period in case they don't work out. INdeed there will be a probationary period involved. THis person won't be the hands on the console most times but our hands on person proximate to where the action is while we're inside mobile control room. Hence some smarts and initiative is called for. >Good luck, you'll need it. It's hard to find good help. Indeed it is, but we're paying better than burger flipper and offering a person a chance to move up. Eventually my lady and partner isn't going to want to go out with the rig and i"ll need good number two. Also we're hoping to offer internships in about a year, at least one at a time. THis could be a good opportunity for a young person wanting to learn the business, as I commented to George in my previous post. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider |