From: DW on
I am trying to set up my home network with a desktop and laptop. Both
computers are running XP SP2 Home Edition. I have gone through the sharing
and configuration wizards and articles with no luck. I wonder if it is
related to the way my network is physically hooked up. The desktop is
connected via Ethernet cable to a Netgear wireless router and the laptop
connects wireless to the router.

Under Network places on the desktop it shows both a 1394 Netadapter and a
Realtek FamilyFast Ethernet NIC. (I don't know which is actually being used).
The laptop shows Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN. The wired LAN connection
is X'ed out.

Both computers have the same workgroup name and have file sharing and
printer sharing activated. They both connect to the Internet but not to each
other.

So my questions are: Does the desktop need to be setup with a network card
to connect to router and be on the same wireless network as the laptop, or
can I use the existing wired connection? Is there some other type of
configuration suggestion? I have asked at the local computer store and they
only suggested checking the configuration.

Thanks.
From: Chuck on
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:00:06 -0800, "DW" <DW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>I am trying to set up my home network with a desktop and laptop. Both
>computers are running XP SP2 Home Edition. I have gone through the sharing
>and configuration wizards and articles with no luck. I wonder if it is
>related to the way my network is physically hooked up. The desktop is
>connected via Ethernet cable to a Netgear wireless router and the laptop
>connects wireless to the router.
>
>Under Network places on the desktop it shows both a 1394 Netadapter and a
>Realtek FamilyFast Ethernet NIC. (I don't know which is actually being used).
> The laptop shows Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN. The wired LAN connection
>is X'ed out.
>
>Both computers have the same workgroup name and have file sharing and
>printer sharing activated. They both connect to the Internet but not to each
>other.
>
>So my questions are: Does the desktop need to be setup with a network card
>to connect to router and be on the same wireless network as the laptop, or
>can I use the existing wired connection? Is there some other type of
>configuration suggestion? I have asked at the local computer store and they
>only suggested checking the configuration.
>
>Thanks.

If both computers are connected to the router, one wired and the other wireless,
they are both connected to the same network. The router radio (WAP) is
connected as a peer to the switch which also connects the LAN Ethernet ports.All
LAN ports, and the WAP, are connected on the same network.

If both computers connect to the Internet, then I'd bet you do not have physical
connectivity issues. One of the most common causes of this problem would be a
misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, but there are other possibilities
too. What antivirus product do you use?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each
computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
articles, and follow instructions precisely:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
From: DW on
Thanks. I will try your suggestions. To answer your question: the desktop
uses Norton and the laptop uses McAfee.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:00:06 -0800, "DW" <DW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to set up my home network with a desktop and laptop. Both
> >computers are running XP SP2 Home Edition. I have gone through the sharing
> >and configuration wizards and articles with no luck. I wonder if it is
> >related to the way my network is physically hooked up. The desktop is
> >connected via Ethernet cable to a Netgear wireless router and the laptop
> >connects wireless to the router.
> >
> >Under Network places on the desktop it shows both a 1394 Netadapter and a
> >Realtek FamilyFast Ethernet NIC. (I don't know which is actually being used).
> > The laptop shows Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN. The wired LAN connection
> >is X'ed out.
> >
> >Both computers have the same workgroup name and have file sharing and
> >printer sharing activated. They both connect to the Internet but not to each
> >other.
> >
> >So my questions are: Does the desktop need to be setup with a network card
> >to connect to router and be on the same wireless network as the laptop, or
> >can I use the existing wired connection? Is there some other type of
> >configuration suggestion? I have asked at the local computer store and they
> >only suggested checking the configuration.
> >
> >Thanks.
>
> If both computers are connected to the router, one wired and the other wireless,
> they are both connected to the same network. The router radio (WAP) is
> connected as a peer to the switch which also connects the LAN Ethernet ports.All
> LAN ports, and the WAP, are connected on the same network.
>
> If both computers connect to the Internet, then I'd bet you do not have physical
> connectivity issues. One of the most common causes of this problem would be a
> misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, but there are other possibilities
> too. What antivirus product do you use?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each
> computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
> articles, and follow instructions precisely:
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>
From: Chuck on
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:05:03 -0800, "DW" <DW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:00:06 -0800, "DW" <DW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I am trying to set up my home network with a desktop and laptop. Both
>> >computers are running XP SP2 Home Edition. I have gone through the sharing
>> >and configuration wizards and articles with no luck. I wonder if it is
>> >related to the way my network is physically hooked up. The desktop is
>> >connected via Ethernet cable to a Netgear wireless router and the laptop
>> >connects wireless to the router.
>> >
>> >Under Network places on the desktop it shows both a 1394 Netadapter and a
>> >Realtek FamilyFast Ethernet NIC. (I don't know which is actually being used).
>> > The laptop shows Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN. The wired LAN connection
>> >is X'ed out.
>> >
>> >Both computers have the same workgroup name and have file sharing and
>> >printer sharing activated. They both connect to the Internet but not to each
>> >other.
>> >
>> >So my questions are: Does the desktop need to be setup with a network card
>> >to connect to router and be on the same wireless network as the laptop, or
>> >can I use the existing wired connection? Is there some other type of
>> >configuration suggestion? I have asked at the local computer store and they
>> >only suggested checking the configuration.
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>>
>> If both computers are connected to the router, one wired and the other wireless,
>> they are both connected to the same network. The router radio (WAP) is
>> connected as a peer to the switch which also connects the LAN Ethernet ports.All
>> LAN ports, and the WAP, are connected on the same network.
>>
>> If both computers connect to the Internet, then I'd bet you do not have physical
>> connectivity issues. One of the most common causes of this problem would be a
>> misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, but there are other possibilities
>> too. What antivirus product do you use?
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>>
>> If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each
>> computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
>> articles, and follow instructions precisely:
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

>Thanks. I will try your suggestions. To answer your question: the desktop
>uses Norton and the laptop uses McAfee.

Both Norton and McAfee contain antitrojan / antiworm components that require the
same attention as a firewall, if you want Windows Networking to work. See the
Irregularities article for details.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
From: DW on
Chuck, Thanks for your help so far. I think I have checked everything in
your articles. Here is what I found and changed:
On the laptop Microsoft Firewall was active. I turned it off and will only
use McAfee. Microsoft Firewall was already turned off on the desktop. I
will only use Norton. On the laptop I cleaned up the browser stack and
deselected AEGIS Protocol. On both computers I had to enable NetBIOS over
TCP/IP.

Here is the ipconfig and browstat for the desktop:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DESKTOP
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
Ethernet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-A6-9B-24-02
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 10, 2006
7:49:13 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 11, 2006
6:41:08 PM

Status for domain RJJW on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{2EB0EEF2-5E2C-4046-B5AC-2B341834CFA2}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

And here is the ipconfig and browstat for the laptop:
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Judy
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Dell Wireless 1470 Dual Band
WLAN Mini-PCI Card
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-45-CC-7F
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.2
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, January 10, 2006
7:46:46 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, January 11, 2006
4:22:08 PM

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-22-B7-29-BB

Status for domain RJJW on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A5A7136B-C3F9-4930-B54B-63ECE31BBC03}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: JUDY
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master JUDY
\\JUDY
There are 2 servers in domain RJJW on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A5A7136B-C3F9-4930-B54B-63ECE31BBC03}
There are 1 domains in domain RJJW on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{A5A7136B-C3F9-4930-B54B-63ECE31BBC03}


So it looks like a browswer problem not being enabled on the desktop. I
also powered down both computers and restarted after making the changes noted
above on the network configurations.

Thanks again.

"Chuck" wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 14:00:06 -0800, "DW" <DW(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
> >I am trying to set up my home network with a desktop and laptop. Both
> >computers are running XP SP2 Home Edition. I have gone through the sharing
> >and configuration wizards and articles with no luck. I wonder if it is
> >related to the way my network is physically hooked up. The desktop is
> >connected via Ethernet cable to a Netgear wireless router and the laptop
> >connects wireless to the router.
> >
> >Under Network places on the desktop it shows both a 1394 Netadapter and a
> >Realtek FamilyFast Ethernet NIC. (I don't know which is actually being used).
> > The laptop shows Dell Wireless 1470 DualBand WLAN. The wired LAN connection
> >is X'ed out.
> >
> >Both computers have the same workgroup name and have file sharing and
> >printer sharing activated. They both connect to the Internet but not to each
> >other.
> >
> >So my questions are: Does the desktop need to be setup with a network card
> >to connect to router and be on the same wireless network as the laptop, or
> >can I use the existing wired connection? Is there some other type of
> >configuration suggestion? I have asked at the local computer store and they
> >only suggested checking the configuration.
> >
> >Thanks.
>
> If both computers are connected to the router, one wired and the other wireless,
> they are both connected to the same network. The router radio (WAP) is
> connected as a peer to the switch which also connects the LAN Ethernet ports.All
> LAN ports, and the WAP, are connected on the same network.
>
> If both computers connect to the Internet, then I'd bet you do not have physical
> connectivity issues. One of the most common causes of this problem would be a
> misconfigured or overlooked personal firewall, but there are other possibilities
> too. What antivirus product do you use?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>
> If no help yet, provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each
> computer, so we can diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked
> articles, and follow instructions precisely:
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>