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From: BGN on 17 Apr 2008 01:45
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:01:09 +0100, "Dieseldes" <desmond(a)orange.net>
wrote:

>
>"BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:1fpc04lj3u2044rg1t7jsnsfspnac9m0d7(a)4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 21:43:37 +0100, "Dieseldes" <desmond(a)orange.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/technology/2008/04/iphone_price_cut_weakness_or_s.html
>>>
>>>Yes but you have to use O2 unless <snip>
>>
>> It appears easier than I thought with ziphone 3. Walk into o2 shop,
>> hand over �169, no bank details or contracts are signed, walk home,
>> open box, stick iPhone into recovery mode, tada. iPhone on T-Mobile
>> web'n'walk!
>
>I only noticed that site because I was unlocking a nokia for a mate, I
>suspect with a bit of research there are simpler ways.. but you are right it
>appears to be that simple, I have played with an i-phone thought about it...
>not convinced I would spend �169 on one though, my flakey old N70 can
>still be used as a modem with the laptop,

I agree, I've got an n95 and an iPod Touch. The iPod Touch is
everything the iPhone is apart from the iTouch is a bit slimmer. But
the iPhone has a lovely interface which means a lot.
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From: BGN on 17 Apr 2008 01:46
On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:17:49 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
<nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote:

>
>"BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>news:iq2b049u3ted5ordualkk1gqbscn62alcc(a)4ax.com...
>> According to BBC News
>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7349101.stm> the iPhone is now
>> �169 at the o2 store and the carphone whorehouse on the 8Gb model
>> until 1st June.
>>
>
>Still tat for the money!

Hrm, as a comparison the 8Gb iPod Touch is �199 which does the same
stuff as the iPhone but doesn't have a phone, the iPhone is 8Gb and
costs �169 and does everything the iPod Touch does but is also a phone
and costs �40 less.
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From: Matt Wheeler on 17 Apr 2008 02:34

"BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:17:49 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
> <nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>news:iq2b049u3ted5ordualkk1gqbscn62alcc(a)4ax.com...
>>> According to BBC News
>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7349101.stm> the iPhone is
>>> now
>>> �169 at the o2 store and the carphone whorehouse on the 8Gb model
>>> until 1st June.
>>>
>>
>>Still tat for the money!
>
> Hrm, as a comparison the 8Gb iPod Touch is �199 which does the same
> stuff as the iPhone but doesn't have a phone, the iPhone is 8Gb and
> costs �169 and does everything the iPod Touch does but is also a
> phone
> and costs �40 less.
>

True, but don't forget the other extra you get with an iPhone, an 18
month minimum term contract at a minimum of 35 pounds per month.
If you don't need the phone, get an ipod Touch and save (35x18)-40
pounds.


From: SimonC on 17 Apr 2008 07:03
"Gareth" <hotmail.com(a)dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
news:480700e1$0$26090$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>
>
> "David Kennedy"
> <davidkennedy(a)nospamformethanksverymuchyoubastards.invalid> wrote in
> message news:HsmdnQuw-YwAbZvVRVnyvgA(a)plusnet...
>> On 17/4/08 07:34, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>> "BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>> news:50pd0413hprp69avlnf8bik0al6hvrfdk2(a)4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:17:49 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
>>>> <nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iq2b049u3ted5ordualkk1gqbscn62alcc(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>> According to BBC News
>>>>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7349101.stm> the iPhone is now
>>>>>> �169 at the o2 store and the carphone whorehouse on the 8Gb model
>>>>>> until 1st June.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Still tat for the money!
>>>> Hrm, as a comparison the 8Gb iPod Touch is �199 which does the same
>>>> stuff as the iPhone but doesn't have a phone, the iPhone is 8Gb and
>>>> costs �169 and does everything the iPod Touch does but is also a phone
>>>> and costs �40 less.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True, but don't forget the other extra you get with an iPhone, an 18
>>> month minimum term contract at a minimum of 35 pounds per month.
>>> If you don't need the phone, get an ipod Touch and save (35x18)-40
>>> pounds.
>>
>> No one is forcing you to take the contract.
>
> Hmm, yes actually they are - if you want an (unlocked) iPhone you don't
> really have much choice but to go with the O2 offering. Compare the
> situation in France.

Actually no - the airtime contract is only signed when you get back home and
activate the iPhone via iTunes. If you prefer you can use one of the
numerous free unlocking software solutions (e.g. ziphone) to jailbreak the
phone instead. You then have everything the iPod Touch does plus a phone
that you can use with any SIM, and also the ability to use 3rd party
applications. The only downside really is that you are potentially
jeopardising your warranty with Apple (though I believe you can revert the
phone to its factory state anyway if need be).


From: Telephoneman on 17 Apr 2008 13:33
I already have an O2 contract (Simplicity �15 per month) would I still need
to unlock the phone or can I just swap the SIMs?

TIA

Liam

"SimonC" <simon.p.cox(a)nospampleasewerebritish.com> wrote in message
news:48072a9b$1_1(a)glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
> "Gareth" <hotmail.com(a)dgareth_nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:480700e1$0$26090$db0fefd9(a)news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>>
>> "David Kennedy"
>> <davidkennedy(a)nospamformethanksverymuchyoubastards.invalid> wrote in
>> message news:HsmdnQuw-YwAbZvVRVnyvgA(a)plusnet...
>>> On 17/4/08 07:34, Matt Wheeler wrote:
>>>> "BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:50pd0413hprp69avlnf8bik0al6hvrfdk2(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:17:49 +0100, "R. Mark Clayton"
>>>>> <nospamclayton(a)btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "BGN" <nickmooney(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:iq2b049u3ted5ordualkk1gqbscn62alcc(a)4ax.com...
>>>>>>> According to BBC News
>>>>>>> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7349101.stm> the iPhone is now
>>>>>>> �169 at the o2 store and the carphone whorehouse on the 8Gb model
>>>>>>> until 1st June.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still tat for the money!
>>>>> Hrm, as a comparison the 8Gb iPod Touch is �199 which does the same
>>>>> stuff as the iPhone but doesn't have a phone, the iPhone is 8Gb and
>>>>> costs �169 and does everything the iPod Touch does but is also a phone
>>>>> and costs �40 less.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> True, but don't forget the other extra you get with an iPhone, an 18
>>>> month minimum term contract at a minimum of 35 pounds per month.
>>>> If you don't need the phone, get an ipod Touch and save (35x18)-40
>>>> pounds.
>>>
>>> No one is forcing you to take the contract.
>>
>> Hmm, yes actually they are - if you want an (unlocked) iPhone you don't
>> really have much choice but to go with the O2 offering. Compare the
>> situation in France.
>
> Actually no - the airtime contract is only signed when you get back home
> and activate the iPhone via iTunes. If you prefer you can use one of the
> numerous free unlocking software solutions (e.g. ziphone) to jailbreak the
> phone instead. You then have everything the iPod Touch does plus a phone
> that you can use with any SIM, and also the ability to use 3rd party
> applications. The only downside really is that you are potentially
> jeopardising your warranty with Apple (though I believe you can revert the
> phone to its factory state anyway if need be).
>


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