From: Michael Weinstein on
There is really negative stuff on the Apple Website for the new
upgrades... people bought version 5 even days before 6 came out and
there is NO upgrade pricing. Granted the software is inexpensive, but
there ought to be SOME break for upgrades.
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From: Davoud on
Michael Weinstein wrote:
> There is really negative stuff on the Apple Website for the new
> upgrades... people bought version 5 even days before 6 came out and
> there is NO upgrade pricing. Granted the software is inexpensive, but
> there ought to be SOME break for upgrades.

I sympathize -- really. But these folks need to pay a bit more
attention to what is happening in the Mac world. Persons who do so are
unlikely to purchase any Apple-brand software /or/ hardware just before
Steve Jobs' MacWorld SF Keynote.

I can't provide a precise cutoff date -- if I need a piece of software
in July I'm not going to wait to January to see if a newer version is
released. But starting on about December 1 for software, and sometime
earlier for hardware, unless it's an emergency need, I'm going to wait
until the Keynote. Ordered my new iWork (no "s") and iLife family packs
immediately following the Keynote :--)

Davoud

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From: Davoud on
Davoud wrote:
> > I sympathize -- really. But these folks need to pay a bit more
> > attention to what is happening in the Mac world.

BreadWithSpam replied:
> I'll disagree with Davoud. They shouldn't have to pay
> close attention,...

You're not disagreeing with me. I didn't say these folks should /have/
to pay attention. Where others are involved I don't discuss ideals,
only realities.

> ...though it would seem to mae that anyone
> making a major purchase should investigate his market and
> prodeuct carefully. On the other hand, iWork and iLife
> are generally not what I'd call "major" purchases - they
> are pretty inexpensive. Compare to, say, MS Office.

Indeed, this is what I said.

> It'd be a nice customer-pleasing courtesy on the part of Apple,
> but I don't think it's a big deal.

Apple doesn't maintain its huge margins by extending courtesies to its
customers beyond the minimum it can get away with.

Davoud

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From: Reginald Dwight on
> BreadWithSpam:
> > I'll disagree with Davoud. They shouldn't have to pay
> > close attention,...

> Davoud:
> You're not disagreeing with me. I didn't say these folks should /have/
> to pay attention.

Davoud originally said:
> I sympathize -- really. But these folks need to pay a bit more
> attention to what is happening in the Mac world.

See...he didn't say "have" - he said "need".

Have means "be obliged or find it necessary to do the specified thing"

Need means "require (something) because it is essential or very
important"

See...BIG difference! :)
From: Dave Hinz on
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:10:26 -0800, Jd Lyall <jdlyall(a)bounce.net> wrote:
> Steven Fisher wrote:

> I have shareware programs (that I've paid for) that allow discounted
> upgrades back more than a year.

Well, the seller decides the terms, don't they? Just like the buyer
_agrees to_ the terms when they, you know, buy.

> Apples disregard for those who have paid
> for extra software (like quicktime pro!) encourages piracy and serial
> number sharing. Really silly of them to be so disrespectful.

Riiiight. Apple is being disrespectful of you, so it's OK to steal
their software. I see. Well, as long as you can justify it to
yourself, that's all that matters then, isn't it?

> And quicktime? Why is it crippled unless you pay for pro?

Why in the world should I have to get Pro, when I have no interest in
those features? Software bloat is evil. Let those who want extra
stuff, install the extra stuff. Don't force it on me. That's why.

> And then pay
> for it again? It is pretty useless for many files one gets from the
> internet. That is why win media has taken over the internet space for
> formats that used to be mostly quicktime.

Great. Enjoy your PC.