From: Zeno Davatz on
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Pekka Enberg <penberg(a)cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Zeno Davatz <zdavatz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 15.07.2010 um 22:00 schrieb Damien Wyart <damien.wyart(a)free.fr>:
>>
>>>>> For now, I can't reproduce the problem with CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM disabled ;
>>>>> with the option and rc5 the problem was happening quite quickly after
>>>>> boot and normal use of the machine. So it seems I can confirme what Zeno
>>>>> has seen and I hope this will give a hint to debug the problem. I guess
>>>>> this has not been reported that much because many testers might not have
>>>>> enabled CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM... Maybe the scheduler folks could test their
>>>>> benchmark with a kernel having this option enabled?
>>>
>>> * Pekka Enberg <penberg(a)cs.helsinki.fi> [2010-07-15 22:50]:
>>>> To be honest, the bug is bit odd. It's related to boot-time memory
>>>> allocator changes but yet it seems to manifest itself as a scheduling
>>>> problem. So if you have some spare time and want to speed up the
>>>> debugging process, please test v2.6.34 and v2.6.35-rc1 with
>>>> CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM and if former is good and latter is bad, try to see
>>>> if you can identify the offending commit with "git bisect."
>>>
>>> Not sure I will have enough time in the coming days (doing that remotely
>>> is fishy since ssh access is almost stuck when the problem occurs); if
>>> Zeno can and would like to do it, maybe this could be done faster.
>>>
>>> As the scheduler is now very well instrumented (many debugging features
>>> are available), reproducing the bug on a test platform (it happens quite
>>> quickly for me) might also give some hints. So testers, if you have
>>> time, please test 2.6.35-rc5 with CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM on a Core i7 and see
>>> if you can reproduce the problem!
>>
>> Will try to do so. Can you point me to the git bisect howto with the versions you want.
>
> Cool. So like I said, you first want to test 2.6.34 to find a known
> good version. Please remember to make sure you have CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM
> enabled. You can also try to speed up the process by testing
> 2.6.35-rc1 which is likely to include the offending commit. That's not
> strictly necessary as long as you are sure that you have some
> 2.6.35-rc kernel that's bad.
>
> After that, bisecting is as simple as:
>
> �git bisect start
> �git bisect good v2.6.34
> �git bisect bad v2.6.31-rc1 # or some other kernel you know to be bad
> �<compile, boot, and try to trigger the problem>
>
> then
>
> �git bisect bad # if you were able to trigger the problem
>
> or
>
> �git bisect good # if the problem doesn't exist
>
> git will then find the next revision to test after which you do
>
> �<compile, boot, and try to trigger the problem>
>
> and repeat the "git bisect good/bad" step until git tells you it has
> found the offending commit.
>
> There's more information on the git bisect man pages:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect.html
>
> Let me know if you need more help with this.

Ok, something sure is wrong with 2.6.34-rc8 I could not boot after I
done the normal bit bisect, cp bzImage and then running lilo -v

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798077725/

I am gonna continue bisecting. 2.6.34-rc7 is fine. No CPU eaters around.

Best
Zeno
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From: Zeno Davatz on
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Pekka Enberg <penberg(a)cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Zeno Davatz <zdavatz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Am 15.07.2010 um 22:00 schrieb Damien Wyart <damien.wyart(a)free.fr>:
>>
>>>>> For now, I can't reproduce the problem with CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM disabled ;
>>>>> with the option and rc5 the problem was happening quite quickly after
>>>>> boot and normal use of the machine. So it seems I can confirme what Zeno
>>>>> has seen and I hope this will give a hint to debug the problem. I guess
>>>>> this has not been reported that much because many testers might not have
>>>>> enabled CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM... Maybe the scheduler folks could test their
>>>>> benchmark with a kernel having this option enabled?
>>>
>>> * Pekka Enberg <penberg(a)cs.helsinki.fi> [2010-07-15 22:50]:
>>>> To be honest, the bug is bit odd. It's related to boot-time memory
>>>> allocator changes but yet it seems to manifest itself as a scheduling
>>>> problem. So if you have some spare time and want to speed up the
>>>> debugging process, please test v2.6.34 and v2.6.35-rc1 with
>>>> CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM and if former is good and latter is bad, try to see
>>>> if you can identify the offending commit with "git bisect."
>>>
>>> Not sure I will have enough time in the coming days (doing that remotely
>>> is fishy since ssh access is almost stuck when the problem occurs); if
>>> Zeno can and would like to do it, maybe this could be done faster.
>>>
>>> As the scheduler is now very well instrumented (many debugging features
>>> are available), reproducing the bug on a test platform (it happens quite
>>> quickly for me) might also give some hints. So testers, if you have
>>> time, please test 2.6.35-rc5 with CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM on a Core i7 and see
>>> if you can reproduce the problem!
>>
>> Will try to do so. Can you point me to the git bisect howto with the versions you want.
>
> Cool. So like I said, you first want to test 2.6.34 to find a known
> good version. Please remember to make sure you have CONFIG_NO_BOOTMEM
> enabled. You can also try to speed up the process by testing
> 2.6.35-rc1 which is likely to include the offending commit. That's not
> strictly necessary as long as you are sure that you have some
> 2.6.35-rc kernel that's bad.
>
> After that, bisecting is as simple as:
>
> �git bisect start
> �git bisect good v2.6.34
> �git bisect bad v2.6.31-rc1 # or some other kernel you know to be bad
> �<compile, boot, and try to trigger the problem>
>
> then
>
> �git bisect bad # if you were able to trigger the problem
>
> or
>
> �git bisect good # if the problem doesn't exist
>
> git will then find the next revision to test after which you do
>
> �<compile, boot, and try to trigger the problem>
>
> and repeat the "git bisect good/bad" step until git tells you it has
> found the offending commit.
>
> There's more information on the git bisect man pages:
>
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-bisect.html
>
> Let me know if you need more help with this.

This one also causes a panic:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798092747/in/photostream/

but this version boots just fine again:

Linux zenogentoo 2.6.34-05459-gac3ee84 #102 SMP Fri Jul 16 09:22:25
CEST 2010 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz GenuineIntel
GNU/Linux

Best
Zeno
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From: Pekka Enberg on
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Zeno Davatz <zdavatz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let me know if you need more help with this.
>
> The next RC again hangs on me:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798744700/sizes/l/

Doesn't look like a kernel bug to me. Maybe some Gentoo person knows
better but the 'root' parameter you pass to the kernel in your lilo
configuration looks a little strange. You should try passing
"/dev/sdXX" to it where XX is whatever partition your root filesystems
is on.
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From: Zeno Davatz on
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Pekka Enberg <penberg(a)cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Zeno Davatz <zdavatz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Let me know if you need more help with this.
>>
>> The next RC again hangs on me:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798744700/sizes/l/
>
> Doesn't look like a kernel bug to me. Maybe some Gentoo person knows
> better but the 'root' parameter you pass to the kernel in your lilo
> configuration looks a little strange. You should try passing
> "/dev/sdXX" to it where XX is whatever partition your root filesystems
> is on.

This version has some problem with the DRM but no CPU eater yet.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798885756/

This version boots again just fine:

Linux zenogentoo 2.6.34-rc5-00059-gc2b4127 #105 SMP Fri Jul 16
11:13:21 CEST 2010 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz
GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

As I understand I am bisecting upwards. Every time it does not boot
correctly I do

git bisect bad after the next boot.

Best
Zeno
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From: Pekka Enberg on
Hi Zeno,

Zeno Davatz wrote:
> This version has some problem with the DRM but no CPU eater yet.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/zrr/4798885756/
>
> This version boots again just fine:
>
> Linux zenogentoo 2.6.34-rc5-00059-gc2b4127 #105 SMP Fri Jul 16
> 11:13:21 CEST 2010 i686 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 960 @ 3.20GHz
> GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

You're going into the wrong direction. If 2.6.34-rc7 works just fine,
you shouldn't be testing 2.6.34-rc5.

>
> As I understand I am bisecting upwards. Every time it does not boot
> correctly I do
>
> git bisect bad after the next boot.

No, you should only do "git bisect bad" if you find a CPU eater and "git
bisect good" if you don't. For the non-booting kernels you should do
"git bisect skip"; otherwise git gets confused as we can see here.

Did you test v2.6.35-rc1? Does it have the CPU eater problem? If yes,
please just reset your bisection

git bisect reset
git bisect start
git bisect good v2.6.34-rc7
git bisect bad v2.6.35-rc1

and use 'git bisect skip' for kernels that don't boot or build.

Pekka
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