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From: Don Burn on 10 Dec 2009 08:57
The first paragraph says it all. "You cannot use an Unclassified Signature
if a logo program exists for your driver or device type." Serial devices
definitely have a logo program so you must use that one.


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"Fabi" <Fabi(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks a lot for your answer. Our main goal is to get rid of this pop up
> and
> to be able to install the driver also under x64 Versions of Windows Vista
> and
> Windows 7.
>
> I think the information I found on the web are a bit confusing. For
> example
> here is the introduction written by Microsoft for the Unclassified
> Submission:
>
> 'You can use the Unclassified Signature program to obtain a Microsoft
> signature for your device drivers and INF files if no "Designed for
> Windows"
> logo program exists for your device type. You can also use the
> Unclassified
> Signature program to sign your filter drivers and device stacks if no
> specific device is associated with your driver. You cannot use an
> Unclassified Signature if a logo program exists for your driver or device
> type. Unclassified Signature is not a device or system logo program and
> does
> not grant you a "Designed for Windows" logo for your driver or device. It
> is
> only used to obtain a signature for your driver.'
>
> And a bit further down they write:
> 'The tests you must run depend upon the capabilities of the device or
> system
> being tested. To see the complete list of tests that could be required for
> your device, see the Driver Reliability Tests topic.
> Note: The Driver Reliability tests are required for most logo programs in
> addition to device-specific tests specified by each logo program. For an
> Unclassifed Signature, the Driver Reliability tests are sufficient to
> obtain
> a signature for your driver.'
>
> Do you know any other, more precise documentation about the signing
> process.
> I did not found them on the web.
>
> Thanks a lot
> Fabi
>
>
> "Don Burn" wrote:
>
>> First do you want to sign your driver so it can work on X64 or to not
>> popup
>> the warning that about the unsigned driver. Your discussion seems to be
>> the latter, but it is worth asking since many folks are confused that you
>> can digitaly sign the driver without being WHQL compliant (but you then
>> get
>> the popup).
>>
>> You need to check the WHQL testing guidelines, the last time I looked I
>> believe they were indicating that starting with SP1 of Vista and Windows
>> 7
>> that if a driver created a device type that had a specific classification
>> that class of submission must be sent. This could have changed, but when
>> I
>> last looked this was the case meaning you need the Serial Port Adapter
>> Test.
>>
>>
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>> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
>> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
>> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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From: Fabi on 10 Dec 2009 10:41
Yes you are right, but further down they say : 'Unclassified Signature is not
a device or system logo program and does
not grant you a "Designed for Windows" logo for your driver or device. It is
only used to obtain a signature for your driver.'

And this is actually what we want... therefore I tought probably we can only
do the unclassified Test.

Fabi

"Don Burn" wrote:

> The first paragraph says it all. "You cannot use an Unclassified Signature
> if a logo program exists for your driver or device type." Serial devices
> definitely have a logo program so you must use that one.
>
>
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> Windows Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> Website: http://www.windrvr.com
> Blog: http://msmvps.com/blogs/WinDrvr
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From: Tim Roberts on 11 Dec 2009 23:54
Fabi <Fabi(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>Thanks a lot for your answer. Our main goal is to get rid of this pop up and
>to be able to install the driver also under x64 Versions of Windows Vista and
>Windows 7.

If the only kernel binary you need is usbser.sys, then the 64-bit problem
does not concern you. That driver is already signed (by Microsoft).

So, the only purpose for your submission would be to eliminate the
"unsigned driver" popup.

>I think the information I found on the web are a bit confusing. For example
>here is the introduction written by Microsoft for the Unclassified Submission:
>...
>Do you know any other, more precise documentation about the signing process.
>I did not found them on the web.

If you really intend to go through with this, you should go straight to the
source and ask WHQL. You'll need to open a Winqual account anyway.

As far as I know, usbser.sys does not actually implement everything that is
needed to qualify as a true serial port for DTM, so I suspect you'll end up
filing as unclassified.
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Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.
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