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From: CodeMonk on 27 Aug 2007 10:37 Betov wrote: > >> I don't see any sense to embed the the source within the binary. > > Simplicity of the management. Security. Speed of developments. > I know I said I'd leave you alone, but this is twice now you've said this method is more secure. Ok, assuming I agreed with the simplicity and speed arguments, explain how this method implies security. You said the executable portion of the PE is always based on the source embedded. So if I pop open my hex editor and modify the source which is embedded - because I can since it is neither compressed nor encrypted - when I launch the application, will it detect the change and recompile before actually executing? - Scott
From: Betov on 27 Aug 2007 10:38 CodeMonk <jascwa(a)yahoo.com> �crivait news:kGAAi.36284$t9.18582 @bignews7.bellsouth.net: > While I *think* I'm actually beginning to have an appreciation for > your sense of humor :)) Too bad there was no humour, at all, in: "By looking at the productivity of the users". Fact is that embeeding the sources inside the PEs has been the second best decision i ever took (the first one was the Right- Click features). And fact is that a decision can be told accurate, when it *works* at a practical level. For a Programming Tool, there is no other final question but the users' *productivity*. All guys who have given a try to RosAsm and to another Assembler, have always complained about how the other Assembler was way more difficult and making them less productive than RosAsm. I sometimes heard some saying "I am going to NASM or to FASM, because it can do more output types", but i never heard any saying "I go to NASM or FASM, because it is easier to use and more productive". How is this, if the basic design is wrong? Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: Betov on 27 Aug 2007 10:53 CodeMonk <jascwa(a)yahoo.com> �crivait news:63BAi.36291$t9.16735 @bignews7.bellsouth.net: > Try "PAN" - It seems I remember it coming with Ubuntu - it works and > puts a menu item under Applications-Internet. Ah! many thanks. Works fine. :) Betov (is sometimes happy). < http://rosasm.org >
From: Betov on 27 Aug 2007 10:56 santosh <santosh.k83(a)gmail.com> �crivait news:faun25$59e$1(a)aioe.org: > I recommend downloading the latest beta version of Pan's sources from > their website, (last I checked it was 0.132), and compile and install > yourself. Now I'm not saying this to aggravate you, but the version of > Pan included with Ubuntu is likely to be an "older" one, which is, in > my experience, very buggy. Yes, Thanks. Done. pan works OK, here. Anyway, Ubuntu checks for updates automatically. Good. :) Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: santosh on 27 Aug 2007 10:56
Betov wrote: > Herbert Kleebauer <klee(a)unibwm.de> �crivait news:46D2B055.C9984B94 > @unibwm.de: > >> Why do you think, if Ubuntu still exist in two years, they will >> still use Gnome and not KDE? > > ? How could i know ? I just suppose (and hope) that they > will not change of GUI every now and then. What would be > their interrest at doing so? I think it is very unlikely for any major Linux distributors to use anything other than KDE or GNOME as their default desktop environment. They might however, oscillate between the two. |