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From: Dominik Brodowski on 3 Mar 2010 03:50
Russell,

On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:30:11AM +0000, Russell King wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:59:44AM +0100, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> > Please pull from that location insofar as you agree to continue with the
> > deprecation of the PCMCIA ioctl. Otherwise, I can prepare a branch
> > _without_ this controversial patch to pull from.
>
> So you believe that disabling the button in the graphical environment
> to allow PCMCIA cards to be removed (such as CF cards) - leaving the
> user to merely pull out the CF card, while the FS is mounted, is a
> good idea?

In which graphical environment specifically?`Which graphical environment
failed to update how to issue card removal events[1] even though the old
interface has been marked as deprecated since July 2005, and clear and bold
warnings have been visible in dmesg since September 2005?

Thanks,
Dominik

[1] Either
# echo 1 > /sys/class/pcmcia_socket/pcmcia_socket{0,1,...}/card_eject
or, if pcmciautils are used,
# pccardctl eject [socket]
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From: Alan Cox on 5 Mar 2010 07:10
> So you believe that disabling the button in the graphical environment
> to allow PCMCIA cards to be removed (such as CF cards) - leaving the
> user to merely pull out the CF card, while the FS is mounted, is a
> good idea?

Do any graphical environments even support the ancient user space
pcmcica helper stuff ? I can't find any evidence they do but I realise
Russell you get to deal with assorted crazy ARM embedded setups.

Alan
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From: Pavel Machek on 13 Mar 2010 02:00
On Wed 2010-03-10 22:00:15, Dominik Brodowski wrote:
> Hey,
>
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 09:45:46PM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > > > So you believe that disabling the button in the graphical environment
> > > > to allow PCMCIA cards to be removed (such as CF cards) - leaving the
> > > > user to merely pull out the CF card, while the FS is mounted, is a
> > > > good idea?
> > >
> > > Do any graphical environments even support the ancient user space
> > > pcmcica helper stuff ? I can't find any evidence they do but I realise
> >
> > Yes; qtopia shipped with zaurus sl-5500 (collie), and very probably
> > opie and gpe...
> >
> > Sharp needed operating system for the handheld, and yes it supported
> > all the hw.
>
> So qtopia still uses the PCMCIA ioctl? Or is it some custom add-on code by
> zaurus? I'd very much like to see some more source code, what parts of
> the IOCTL it uses etc. pp. Or at least some pointers...

Well, Alan asked about "any graphical environments even support the
ancient user space pcmcica helper stuff", and yes I believe there are
some. I probably have one on ancient collie that's lying
somewhere. Not sure about sources, I never used those heavily.

Pavel
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