From: Chuck Crayne on
On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:46:34 GMT
Frank Kotler <fbkotler(a)verizon.net> wrote:

> Chuck's running Linux

Indeed I am, but what is more important to the future of Linux is that
my wife, who is an author and artist, is also running Linux on her
machine. To be sure, she looks to me to be her system administrator,
but she rarely needs to call upon my services.

She uses Firefox to surf the web; Thunderbird for her email; Open
Office to write her books; Gimp to do her artwork -- and everything
just works.

--
Chuck
http://www.pacificsites.com/~ccrayne/charles.html


From: Rod Pemberton on

"Betov" <betov(a)free.fr> wrote in message
news:XnF9A77790D02024betovfreefr(a)212.27.60.37...
> Frank Kotler <fbkotler(a)verizon.net> �crivait news:fCdJj.4356$fq2.2114
> @trndny03:
>
> > How are you getting along with Ubuntu?
>
> Sad to say that i am very upset with the very poor quality
> of it, and very pessimist about the futur of any Linux.

Then start over with a modern version of Linux 0.01:
http://draconux.free.fr/os_dev/linux0.01.html

Work in modern Linux filesystem support from FILO. FILO's filesystem code
was extracted from Linux: IDE, USB, SATA, ext2, FAT, ISO 9660, Multiboot,
ELF. The filesystem code is has no BIOS calls.
http://www.coreboot.org/FILO

Together, they'd be a compact Linux kernel. You might want to add dietlibc
or RedHat's newlib.


Rod Pemberton

From: Evenbit on
On Apr 2, 4:59 am, Frank Kotler <fbkot...(a)verizon.net> wrote:
> >>there really *are* two different operations...
>
> > No matter how one wishes to classify things (syntax, operation, or
> > encoding), I believe that "two" might be too low of a count.
>
> I was just "making excuses" for HLA calling "imul" and "intmul" by
> different names. It *does* make sense, in a way.

Well, with HLA being, as you say, Alien, { I guess that is a polite
way of saying that it has -way- too many hands in the High-Level
"cookie-jar" } it has a need of -many- excuses. :)

>
> I may have mentioned that I think HLA syntax is a mistake from "begin"
> to "end"... inclusive. I find it "weird" that Randy was disappointed
> that Nasm wasn't "true Intel syntax" (which it isn't)... and then he
> writes *this* thing!

I never did "buy" that arguement either. It is like going back to
construct a fake mountain to justify why you've built a road
containing a wide southern curve.

> But that's the nice part of being a programmer -
> you can do it any damn way you want to!

But when it is a programmer's "tool" you are creating, then your
decisions don't affect just 'your' work -- they have reprocusions on
other's work as well.

Nathan.
From: Evenbit on
On Apr 3, 5:37 pm, Herbert Kleebauer <k...(a)unibwm.de> wrote:
>
> > No problem: For an HLL, one is allowed to do what he wants
> > with the syntax.
>
> What has this to do with HLL? The CPU defines the machine language
> and the assembler defines the assembler syntax. And any modification
> of the "Intel syntax" can only mean an improvement.

Are you off your meds?? You are usually of agreement that HLA is
indeed an HLL.

Nathan.
From: Evenbit on
On Apr 5, 5:55 am, Betov <be...(a)free.fr> wrote:
> Frank Kotler <fbkot...(a)verizon.net> écrivait news:fCdJj.4356$fq2.2114
> @trndny03:
>
> > How are you getting along with Ubuntu?
>
> Sad to say that i am very upset with the very poor quality

Can you be specific about what aspects are "poor quality" and to what
it is you are comparing them?

> of it, and very pessimist about the futur of any Linux. We will
> see how it goes at the end of this year, but i doubt, more
> and more, that it will pass over the 5% of the market share

Too many people too often infer too much meaning from percentage
figures. If I were to invent the perverbial "better mouse trap" and
somebody offered to use and demonstrate my "better mouse trap" on a
stage during 5% of a local theatrical show, then I would not be very
excited about the deal. However, if they instead offered to do 5%
coverage during a nationally televized show, I would be more inclined
to sign the contract.

In other words, 5% of today's PC market is probably equal to 70% of
what the market was 10 years ago.

Nathan.
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