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From: Darrell Stec on 12 Oct 2005 14:25 I'm running Suse 9.3 with the latest Wine version 20050930. So far I haven't been able to install any Windows program with wine. I noticed that the winehq.com website recommends installing DCOM98 for programs that use Installshield. Programs using Installshield abort with an unsuccessful installation with an error come of: Error number 0x80040706 Description Object reference not set. I haven't been able to find anything on this except on one Russian website. For those programs that have their own setup executable I cannot give an appropriate drive and path. I know that the Windows stuff (for Linux that is) is found in /home/exampleuser/.wine/fake_windows/Windows or ~/fake_windows/Program Files. However with the Windows setup routine, the browse feature cannot find the .wine directory because it is hidden. [the /home/exampleuser directory is listed on drive Z:] Every permutation of a drive/path I have tried produces an error with either an invalid drive, invalid path, or invalid character in the path. Placing quotes around the entire path doesn't seem to help either. In reading the winehq.com website and other forums it seems installing a program should be a straightforward thing. I know actually running the program is a whole new ball game, but I haven't managed to actually install a program yet (unless you count install some fonts and things from within Winetools). Can anyone offer a few pointers? Incidentally I have tried loading MS Flight Simulator (not that I actually expect it to run), and Flight Logbook (which I really would like to run). Flight Logbook is a professional program which helps pilots keep track of their flights, exams, certifications etc. It would be one less reason to boot up into Windows. -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
From: Kevin Nathan on 12 Oct 2005 23:43 On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:25:58 -0400 Darrell Stec <darrell_stec(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: > I'm running Suse 9.3 with the latest Wine version 20050930. So far I > haven't been able to install any Windows program with wine. I only use wine for running IE to check websites, but I'll take a stab at a question or two . . . > For those programs that have their own setup executable I cannot give > an appropriate drive and path. I know that the Windows stuff (for > Linux that is) is found > in /home/exampleuser/.wine/fake_windows/Windows or > ~/fake_windows/Program Files. However with the Windows setup > routine, the browse feature cannot find the .wine directory because > it is hidden. [the /home/exampleuser directory is listed on drive > Z:] In the ~/.wine directory, I have the following symlinks that get around that problem: c -> /home/knathan/.wine/drive_c fake_windows -> /home/knathan/.wine/drive_c and start any Windows install *after* doing: cd ~/.wine I also remember doing this, once upon a time: cd ln -s .wine wine and changing other symlinks accordingly. But it's been a *long* time since I've tried installing any Windows software, other than IE. I have no idea if this will help you, or not, just throwing it out for you to consider . . . :-) > but I haven't managed to actually install a program yet (unless you > count install some fonts and things from within Winetools). I've gotten less than stellar performance out of Winetools on all the version of wine I tried, until I read their website closely. I had winetools 2.1.2 and their site said it worked best with wine-20041019 so I downloaded, compiled and installed that version. Then ran winetools 2.1.2, installed everything in their setup dialog (even though I only wanted IE) and it all worked great. Since then, I've done a few test installs for some programs SWMBO wanted to run for her soap-making business, and they mostly went ok. Of course, they aren't pushing the system much, simple number-crunching like in recipes and such. (I'm currently working on a CGI-based solution for her.) > Flight Logbook is a professional program which helps pilots keep > track of their flights, exams, certifications etc. It would be one > less reason to boot up into Windows. Not familiar with it, but there is a *very* simple program for Linux called "GNU Pilot Logbook Pro". It doesn't have any of the exams and certifications tracking, but it's not a bad start. If you know C, you could always extend it! ;-) I'd enjoy working on it, but I can't start a new project for several months . . . :-( BTW, it's on freshmeat.net and is only 74KB. Compiles easily and, if you use 'checkinstall' for the 'make install' step, you can easily remove it, as well. You might also want to play around with 'grok', a nice little organizer with some interesting features. It should be on your install media. Might work for the exam/certs stuff. Just throwing out more thoughts (or is it effluvium?) . . . :-) -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- http://www.project54.com/linux/ Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.8-24.18-default 8:04pm up 34 days 20:50, 13 users, load average: 0.39, 0.12, 0.09
From: Darrell Stec on 13 Oct 2005 01:55 After serious contemplation, on or about Wednesday 12 October 2005 11:43 pm knathan(a)project54.com wrote: > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:25:58 -0400 > Darrell Stec <darrell_stec(a)webpagesorcery.com> wrote: > >> I'm running Suse 9.3 with the latest Wine version 20050930. So far I >> haven't been able to install any Windows program with wine. > > I only use wine for running IE to check websites, but I'll take a stab > at a question or two . . . > > >> For those programs that have their own setup executable I cannot give >> an appropriate drive and path. I know that the Windows stuff (for >> Linux that is) is found >> in /home/exampleuser/.wine/fake_windows/Windows or >> ~/fake_windows/Program Files. However with the Windows setup >> routine, the browse feature cannot find the .wine directory because >> it is hidden. [the /home/exampleuser directory is listed on drive >> Z:] > > In the ~/.wine directory, I have the following symlinks that get around > that problem: > > c -> /home/knathan/.wine/drive_c > fake_windows -> /home/knathan/.wine/drive_c > > and start any Windows install *after* doing: > > cd ~/.wine > > I also remember doing this, once upon a time: > > cd > ln -s .wine wine > > and changing other symlinks accordingly. But it's been a *long* time > since I've tried installing any Windows software, other than IE. > > I have no idea if this will help you, or not, just throwing it out for > you to consider . . . :-) > So far they haven't made any difference. In fact winetools cannot install any more modules. I'll have to backtrack. Isn't this fun! > >> but I haven't managed to actually install a program yet (unless you >> count install some fonts and things from within Winetools). > > I've gotten less than stellar performance out of Winetools on all the > version of wine I tried, until I read their website closely. I had > winetools 2.1.2 and their site said it worked best with wine-20041019 > so I downloaded, compiled and installed that version. Then ran > winetools 2.1.2, installed everything in their setup dialog (even > though I only wanted IE) and it all worked great. > > Since then, I've done a few test installs for some programs SWMBO > wanted to run for her soap-making business, and they mostly went ok. Of > course, they aren't pushing the system much, simple number-crunching > like in recipes and such. (I'm currently working on a CGI-based > solution for her.) > >> Flight Logbook is a professional program which helps pilots keep >> track of their flights, exams, certifications etc. It would be one >> less reason to boot up into Windows. > > Not familiar with it, but there is a *very* simple program for Linux > called "GNU Pilot Logbook Pro". Logbook Pro is the exact program I am using in WinXP. I downloaded and tried to configure, checkinstall etc. I had a problem doing that with GAIM too. Turns out that when I upgraded from Suse 9.1 Pro to 9.3, the gtk-devel files never got loaded. I was looking for some odd, esoteric reason for not being able to install the program. One of those duh moments. > It doesn't have any of the exams and > certifications tracking, but it's not a bad start. If you know C, you > could always extend it! ;-) Gee, just what I need -- another project. I'm having a bad enough time entering three years worth of log entries, beginning with pilot flight school. It is as bad as pulling teeth. Pilots could tie doctors for a most attrocious handwriting of the year award. > I'd enjoy working on it, but I can't start > a new project for several months . . . :-( > I'm in the same position. However when I get the logbook up to date, there might be more pilots that want me to do the same thing for them > BTW, it's on freshmeat.net and is only 74KB. Compiles easily and, if > you use 'checkinstall' for the 'make install' step, you can easily > remove it, as well. > Got it installed. Looks similar to the real thing but a few items are missing on the logbook section. This will require some study. > You might also want to play around with 'grok', a nice little organizer > with some interesting features. It should be on your install media. > Might work for the exam/certs stuff. Just throwing out more thoughts > (or is it effluvium?) . . . :-) > > -- Later, Darrell Stec darstec(a)neo.rr.com Webpage Sorcery http://webpagesorcery.com We Put the Magic in Your Webpages
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