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From: Des on 2 May 2008 17:35
In message <#19byeIrIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec(a)AmericaOnLine.com> writes
>
>"Des" <fairs(a)dtrecords.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:BCUjRRB8g0GIFwqf(a)dollars.demon.co.uk...
>
>> The other thing to remember is that with my HP4150 I can send and
>>receive mail. But for some reason if I configure another account
>>using the same settings - it doesn't work. I get the same message.
>>That's what's really weird
>
>That is really weird. Can you back up the device (there's probably a
>backup utility in ROM if it's pre-WM5) then hard-reset it (wipe out all
>data and restore it to factory-fresh state) and reconfigure the e-mail?
>If it works then, you can reinstall the apps on it one by one and see
>if one "breaks" the email. If the experiment is a total bust (e-mail
>still doesn't work right away) you can restore from the backup file and
>be right back where you started.

I think the ppc (HP4150) is capable of backing up (haven't a spare sd
card - will get one tomorrow)

>
>>>The e-mail message sounds like a typical "bounce back" message from
>>>an e-mail provider saying a message was undeliverable, and doesn't
>>>seem to be generated by your PPC.
>>>
>> As for bounce back. I called Demon (service provider) on the phone
>>and had them look at my data coming out. They said the error message
>>comes up so fast that it wasn't even getting to the router
>
>Weird. I'm not aware that PPCs can gererate their own bounceback
>e-mails,, so something weird is going on.
>
>>>Not without a lot more information. Typically problems sending are
>>>incorrect SMTP settings, or trying to send mail through a foriegn
>>>server (one other than your ISP.)
>>>
>> SMTP settings are correct and were confirmed when I had my service
>>provider on the line
>
>Ok. I assume you can send e-mail from your PC when using the same
>internet connection/router and it's connected to Demon? Demon's help
>pages indicate that you can only send Demon e-mail when connected to
>Demon (that's a typical ISP SPAM-control measure, particularly when
>they don't use SMTP authentication), so it probably won't work when
>connected to other WiFi APs (unless they coincidentally happen to be on
>Demon as well.) Are you certain the device is connecting to your own
>router and not, say, a neighbor's on a different ISP?

I have noticed neighbor's routers before but I'm definitely using my
router
>
>
>Ok, but again, has it ever worked for YOUR e-mail account and suddenly
>stopped working, or has it never worked (except for your buddy's
>e-mail?)

I think it has worked (HP4700) I'm about 90% certain. It's been such a
long time since it may have worked (early last year). The problem is
that I was sending emails out but not aware that they weren't being sent
until a few months ago
>
>>>For anyone here to troubleshoot, you'll probably need to tell us (at
>>>the very least!) who the mail provider is, and what settings you've
>>>entered.
>> User info:
>> my name - xxxxx
>> user name - xxxxx
>> password - xxxxx
>>
>> then account type = pop3
>> name = xxxxx
>>
>> server info:
>>
>> incoming mail = pop3.demon.co.uk
>> outgoing mail = post.demon.co.uk
>> domain = xxxxxx
>
>I saw no reference to having to enter a domain name on Demon's site.
>Is that field blank or populated?
>
>
I've tried with and without my domain name
>> options
>> (don't need to config. because of the type of account I have - says
>>my service provider )
>
>It would seem that way based on the website- Demon's settings are
>simple enough.
>
>>>The error message you were getting sounds like you were attempting to
>>>run the PC version of the installer on the PPC directly.
>>>
>>>The .cab file download is here:
>>>http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-pocketpc-cab

Tried this but didn't worked
>>>
>> Tried .cab file - still made no difference (not sure if it is the
>>one you've listed
>> will try this one shortly
>
>Is your 4700 running WM2003 or WM5? IIRC, the newer versions of Skype
>run on WM5+ only. You might have to email Skype and see if they'll
>send you an older version for WM2003. (The Skype site has VERY little
>info on the PPC requirements, but IIRC, they used to offer separate
>versions for the different WM revisions.)
>

WM2003

what is IIRC?

>>>Download that file, copy it to your device and try to run it. If
>>>Skype isn't compatible for your device, you can try Fring at
>>>www.fring.com, an alternate VoIP provider who's all-in-one VoIP app
>>>lets you make and receive Skype calls as well as a number of other
>>>VoIP and IM providers.
>
>Sadly, I probably gave bad advice there- I think Fring is for WM5+ only
>as well, so if the device won't run Skype, it won't run Fring either...
>
>
Yep, no signs of ppc downloads
>Good luck!
>
>

--
Des
From: Todd Allcock on 2 May 2008 22:30

"Des" <fairs(a)dtrecords.co.uk> wrote in message
news:N+cgezBfk4GIFwo9(a)dollars.demon.co.uk...

> what is IIRC?

Silly internet acronym for "If I recall correctly..."

Sorry!

By the way, I just checked the Skype blogs and the current version (2.2) for
Windows Mobile is WM2003 compatible, so I'm not sure why it's refusing to
install. You might want to do a hard reset and start over with the whole
device. Something weird is going on with it...



From: Person on 3 May 2008 07:09
In message <#19byeIrIHA.1164(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl>, Todd Allcock
<elecconnec(a)AmericaOnLine.com> writes
>
Just purchased a SD card - One question - as I've never done a full back
up before. Just need to be reassured that if on the HP4150 if I
perform a full back up will it back up the 'skype' (it's an early
version and may not be available now) and other programs (Resco Exp
2003, Resco FTP add-in, Resco registry add-in (these I installed via
downloads from an old PC that I still have but is a bit unreliable)


Thank you

I've only got tom tom installed on the 4700 so I should be OK

>> The other thing to remember is that with my HP4150 I can send and
>>receive mail. But for some reason if I configure another account
>>using the same settings - it doesn't work. I get the same message.
>>That's what's really weird
>
>That is really weird. Can you back up the device (there's probably a
>backup utility in ROM if it's pre-WM5) then hard-reset it (wipe out all
>data and restore it to factory-fresh state) and reconfigure the e-mail?
>If it works then, you can reinstall the apps on it one by one and see
>if one "breaks" the email. If the experiment is a total bust (e-mail
>still doesn't work right away) you can restore from the backup file and
>be right back where you started.
>

--
Des
From: Des on 3 May 2008 10:44
In message <gyBrNoAsfEHIFwF6(a)dollars.demon.co.uk>, Person
<People(a)dollars.demon.co.uk> writes
Hard reset on HP4700 - configured wireless settings then e-mail account
but made no difference. Also downloaded skype .cab file and the same
message came up - not a windows ce setup file).
Do you have any other suggestions?

Des
--
Des
From: Todd Allcock on 3 May 2008 13:01
At 03 May 2008 12:09:32 +0100 Person wrote:

> Just purchased a SD card - One question - as I've never done a full
> back up before. Just need to be reassured that if on the HP4150 if
> I perform a full back up will it back up the 'skype' (it's an early
> version and may not be available now) and other programs (Resco
> Exp 2003, Resco FTP add-in, Resco registry add-in (these I installed
> via downloads from an old PC that I still have but is a bit unreliable)


Yes it should- that's how it's designed, but be warned that with any
computer, accidents happen!


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