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From: Gazz on 27 Dec 2007 10:59 gone for puppy linux, pleased with how it looks, does what i want it to... on the desktop computer that is. when loading it into the laptop, it dosent allow the network cards to be used, the lappy is a HO G5000, 3 month old, it's got a broadcom something or other wifi card,, a RTL8139 family pci fast ethernet card, and i also have a usrobotics usb rangemax dongle, USR 5421. i cant get any of them to work, the 2 internal cards get listed correctly, but it can't use them it seems, the usb dongle isnt recognised at all, and i get no lights on the thing at all. for the moment i want to get the wired lan working, i've read other people with that card have problems, but not found a definate solution, some tell them to enter a load of things manualy, but that's all too vague for me i'm afraid, it seems as if puppy just isnt loading something to do with all networking, due to all the cards not working. anyone got any ideas? btw it's puppy 3.1 i have, i dont want to have to manually load a driver everytime i plug the usb drive into the lappy to run linux, so something that gets the correct drivers into the main os is needed, puppy found the lan card on my ancient 2001 vintage laptop straight away, but cant do the same on a modern machine.
From: Will Kemp on 27 Dec 2007 13:17 On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:59:40 +0000, Gazz wrote: > for the moment i want to get the wired lan working, i've read other > people with that card have problems, but not found a definate solution, > some tell them to enter a load of things manualy, but that's all too > vague for me i'm afraid, On the puppy forum, you said you'd tried manual network configuration. What exactly did you do, and what response did you get from the OS?
From: Gazz on 28 Dec 2007 15:47 "Will Kemp" <Will(a)xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote in message news:7%Rcj.17085$ov2.7021(a)newsfe5-win.ntli.net... > On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:59:40 +0000, Gazz wrote: > >> for the moment i want to get the wired lan working, i've read other >> people with that card have problems, but not found a definate solution, >> some tell them to enter a load of things manualy, but that's all too >> vague for me i'm afraid, > > On the puppy forum, you said you'd tried manual network configuration. > What exactly did you do, and what response did you get from the OS? Me GF is hogging the laptop, and i know better than to try and ask for it back, even for a few minutes. but from memory heres what happens. when puppy is loading up, it gets to the driver loading screen, where you get the text that goes something like... loading mouse driver.... [OK] loading sound driver.... [OK] loading network card..... [Backgrounded] loading something else... [OK] and so on, everything loads ok except the network card which gets backgrounded (which happens on my ancient laptop as well, yet the network card is all ready and working when it's finished loading, just not so on the new lappy. once puppy is loaded up, i go to the network card set up wizzard thing from the start button, i get a choice of 2 cards, 0 and 1, the 0 is the wifi card, 1 is the lan card, i select 1, (it has 2 letters before it, ed or eh or something) then i get the screen where i can press the 'auto configure' button, i do this, get the box saying it could take 60 seconds to get the stuff it needs, about 50 seconds later it tells me it was unsuccessfull, and asks me to try loading a driver. (before pressing the auto configure button, i press the one above it, and it says it's found a live network (which it says even with the lan cable unplugged) Anyhoo, i tried loading every single driver in the database, and none of em will work. so i went to the manual set up bit, and gave it the details of the network, (SSID, dns etc) and it still wont have it, it's the same for the wifi card, so i am wondering if it's not loading the driver for what ever bus the wifi and lan cards are on?? i know the wifi card is on a mini pci bus because it's removable. is that any help?? am i doing something stupid, bearing in mind i grew up with windowz pooters, and am used to point and click solutions to everythig, and i am more at home modifying mechanical stuff that pooter proggies.
From: Will Kemp on 30 Dec 2007 12:01 On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:47:28 +0000, Gazz wrote: > once puppy is loaded up, i go to the network card set up wizzard thing > from the start button, i get a choice of 2 cards, 0 and 1, the 0 is the > wifi card, 1 is the lan card, So it actually finds the lan card then? I haven't used puppy, so i don't know how it works, but if it gives you the choice of it, it must know it's there. > it's the same for the wifi card, so i am wondering if it's not loading > the driver for what ever bus the wifi and lan cards are on?? i know the > wifi card is on a mini pci bus because it's removable. If it knows the lan card is there, the driver must have been loaded - otherwise, it wouldn't have a clue that the card was even there. Unless, of course, the config system has a default setup and that's what it's showing - but it doesn't seem very likely. Do 'lsmod' and see if you can work out if the driver module's loaded. If you can't work it out, you can post the output from lsmod here. Also do 'ifconfig' and see if it reports anything other than "lo" (the loopback interface). You can post the output of that here, too if you need help interpreting it. You shouldn't need to be root to run either of those commands, so just pop up a terminal window and give them a go.
From: C. on 30 Dec 2007 16:17
On 30 Dec, 17:01, Will Kemp <W...(a)xxxx.Swaggie.net> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:47:28 +0000, Gazz wrote: > > once puppy is loaded up, i go to the network card set up wizzard thing > > from the start button, i get a choice of 2 cards, 0 and 1, the 0 is the > > wifi card, 1 is the lan card, > > So it actually finds the lan card then? I haven't used puppy, so i don't > know how it works, but if it gives you the choice of it, it must know > it's there. > > > it's the same for the wifi card, so i am wondering if it's not loading > > the driver for what ever bus the wifi and lan cards are on?? i know the > > wifi card is on a mini pci bus because it's removable. > > If it knows the lan card is there, the driver must have been loaded - > otherwise, it wouldn't have a clue that the card was even there. Unless, > of course, the config system has a default setup and that's what it's > showing - but it doesn't seem very likely. > > Do 'lsmod' and see if you can work out if the driver module's loaded. If > you can't work it out, you can post the output from lsmod here. > > Also do 'ifconfig' and see if it reports anything other than "lo" (the > loopback interface). You can post the output of that here, too if you > need help interpreting it. > > You shouldn't need to be root to run either of those commands, so just > pop up a terminal window and give them a go. the RTL8139 has been around a very long time - it was the first single chip 100Mb solution and was surprisingly cheap so it has subsequently appeared all over the place - its also been supported under Linux forever. Unlike some cheapo Wifi cards it does not require any firmware download. I'm really surprised you are having so much trouble with it. I've only booted Puppy a couple of times and admittedly not on a box with an 8139 - it did have some much more esoteric networking hardware which Puppy found and configured without any problem. Are you sure ACPI is running properly and assigning IRQs (check that the BIOS is set to PlugNPlay OS=Yes, and that it powers down if you try doing a 'shutdown -h now'). Check the output of dmesg very carefully. The only time I've seen 'Backgrounding' during network start up was with a slow / missing DHCP server - maybe your hardware is working fine but you need to config astatic IP address? Is there a DHCP server on your LAN? C. |