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From: L... on 7 Oct 2005 20:30 5 xp's, 1x98se wireless and one win2k running as a server. All are plugged in to either the modem or "router". Had problems over past couple of months wiht connection so a guy that was helping us replaced wires and then replaced our 5 port router with a 5 post switch. Come to find out the cable modem was going bad. Everything seems to be working ok now. We're signed up for 1.5 speed but only running ~ 800-900. Tried to read the difference in different articles but still having problem understanding, router vs switch. Is there that much of a difference? Anything to change? L.
From: Chuck on 8 Oct 2005 23:59 A switch is generally just that. A router is much more, and can be setup to match the user's needs. In addition, a router usually is seen by the ISP as a single computer, and the switch as multiple computers. Some Cable and DSL modems have a one or two port router built in. A lot of things besides the switch can impact speed. Most of the time you get better results with a router. However, some routers slow down when they are set up to do MAC filtering and similar tasks. "L..." <ofallons12320(a)yahooie.com> wrote in message news:OPbUV$5yFHA.1040(a)TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > 5 xp's, 1x98se wireless and one win2k running as a server. > All are plugged in to either the modem or "router". > Had problems over past couple of months wiht connection so a guy that was > helping us replaced wires and then replaced our 5 port router with a 5 post > switch. > Come to find out the cable modem was going bad. > Everything seems to be working ok now. > We're signed up for 1.5 speed but only running ~ 800-900. > Tried to read the difference in different articles but still having problem > understanding, router vs switch. > > Is there that much of a difference? > Anything to change? > > L. > > > > > > >
From: L. on 10 Oct 2005 10:22 Thanks for the info. The cable modem is a Prestige 900 which I understand is a modem/router. We run a single connection to a D-Link switch which the server(win2k) and other machines(winXP) connect to. Would/should we be running through a router or does it matter? "Chuck" <cdkuder(a)msn.com> wrote in message news:etYgoTJzFHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >A switch is generally just that. A router is much more, and can be setup to > match the user's needs. > In addition, a router usually is seen by the ISP as a single computer, and > the switch as multiple computers. > Some Cable and DSL modems have a one or two port router built in. > A lot of things besides the switch can impact speed. Most of the time you > get better results with a router. However, some routers slow down when > they > are set up to do MAC filtering and similar tasks. > > "L..." <ofallons12320(a)yahooie.com> wrote in message > news:OPbUV$5yFHA.1040(a)TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >> 5 xp's, 1x98se wireless and one win2k running as a server. >> All are plugged in to either the modem or "router". >> Had problems over past couple of months wiht connection so a guy that was >> helping us replaced wires and then replaced our 5 port router with a 5 > post >> switch. >> Come to find out the cable modem was going bad. >> Everything seems to be working ok now. >> We're signed up for 1.5 speed but only running ~ 800-900. >> Tried to read the difference in different articles but still having > problem >> understanding, router vs switch. >> >> Is there that much of a difference? >> Anything to change? >> >> L. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
From: Chuck on 10 Oct 2005 13:09 On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:22:22 -0500, "L." <*email_address_deleted*> wrote: >"Chuck" <cdkuder(a)msn.com> wrote in message >news:etYgoTJzFHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>A switch is generally just that. A router is much more, and can be setup to >> match the user's needs. >> In addition, a router usually is seen by the ISP as a single computer, and >> the switch as multiple computers. >> Some Cable and DSL modems have a one or two port router built in. >> A lot of things besides the switch can impact speed. Most of the time you >> get better results with a router. However, some routers slow down when >> they >> are set up to do MAC filtering and similar tasks. >> >> "L..." <ofallons12320(a)yahooie.com> wrote in message >> news:OPbUV$5yFHA.1040(a)TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> 5 xp's, 1x98se wireless and one win2k running as a server. >>> All are plugged in to either the modem or "router". >>> Had problems over past couple of months wiht connection so a guy that was >>> helping us replaced wires and then replaced our 5 port router with a 5 >> post >>> switch. >>> Come to find out the cable modem was going bad. >>> Everything seems to be working ok now. >>> We're signed up for 1.5 speed but only running ~ 800-900. >>> Tried to read the difference in different articles but still having >> problem >>> understanding, router vs switch. >>> >>> Is there that much of a difference? >>> Anything to change? >>> >>> L. >Thanks for the info. >The cable modem is a Prestige 900 which I understand is a modem/router. > >We run a single connection to a D-Link switch which the server(win2k) and >other machines(winXP) connect to. > >Would/should we be running through a router or does it matter? The Prestige 900 appears to be a ZyXEL cable modem / router combo. <http://www.zyxel.com/product/model.php?indexcate=1115187948&indexFlagvalue=1117177316> You shouldn't need another router below it - just a switch will do - as long as you're not trying to isolate your LAN from your neighbor. In the latter case, you need 2 routers - one for you and the other for your neighbor. If you're having speed problems, you should maybe be working with your cable company. You may also get results from BBR Forums - maybe BBR Networking or Cable Forum. <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/sharing> <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/cablechat> There may be a specific forum for customers of your ISP in BBR Forums. <http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all> -- Cheers, Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. My email is AT DOT actual address pchuck mvps org.
From: L. on 10 Oct 2005 14:31
"Chuck" <none(a)example.net> wrote in message news:of7lk11k1btc7mojmn4nubsi1flsnt6fps(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:22:22 -0500, "L." <*email_address_deleted*> wrote: > >>"Chuck" <cdkuder(a)msn.com> wrote in message >>news:etYgoTJzFHA.3408(a)TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>A switch is generally just that. A router is much more, and can be setup >>>to >>> match the user's needs. >>> In addition, a router usually is seen by the ISP as a single computer, >>> and >>> the switch as multiple computers. >>> Some Cable and DSL modems have a one or two port router built in. >>> A lot of things besides the switch can impact speed. Most of the time >>> you >>> get better results with a router. However, some routers slow down when >>> they >>> are set up to do MAC filtering and similar tasks. >>> >>> "L..." <ofallons12320(a)yahooie.com> wrote in message >>> news:OPbUV$5yFHA.1040(a)TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>> 5 xp's, 1x98se wireless and one win2k running as a server. >>>> All are plugged in to either the modem or "router". >>>> Had problems over past couple of months wiht connection so a guy that >>>> was >>>> helping us replaced wires and then replaced our 5 port router with a 5 >>> post >>>> switch. >>>> Come to find out the cable modem was going bad. >>>> Everything seems to be working ok now. >>>> We're signed up for 1.5 speed but only running ~ 800-900. >>>> Tried to read the difference in different articles but still having >>> problem >>>> understanding, router vs switch. >>>> >>>> Is there that much of a difference? >>>> Anything to change? >>>> >>>> L. > >>Thanks for the info. >>The cable modem is a Prestige 900 which I understand is a modem/router. >> >>We run a single connection to a D-Link switch which the server(win2k) and >>other machines(winXP) connect to. >> >>Would/should we be running through a router or does it matter? > > The Prestige 900 appears to be a ZyXEL cable modem / router combo. > <http://www.zyxel.com/product/model.php?indexcate=1115187948&indexFlagvalue=1117177316> > > You shouldn't need another router below it - just a switch will do - as > long as > you're not trying to isolate your LAN from your neighbor. In the latter > case, > you need 2 routers - one for you and the other for your neighbor. > > If you're having speed problems, you should maybe be working with your > cable > company. You may also get results from BBR Forums - maybe BBR Networking > or > Cable Forum. > <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/sharing> > <http://www.dslreports.com/forum/cablechat> > > There may be a specific forum for customers of your ISP in BBR Forums. > <http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all> > > -- > Cheers, > Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking] > http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/ > Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience. > My email is AT DOT > actual address pchuck mvps org. Again, thanks. I ran a couple of more speed checks @(http://reviews.cnet.com/7004-7254_7-0.html) and get two different readings. When I select "cable modem" get average of 875-950kbps BUT if I select LAN get 1175-1275kbps. Signed up for 1.5 (1500) but if we're within 80% with 5 systems on network, isn't bad.... L. |