From: carolus on
On 4/16/2010 10:43 PM, A Watcher wrote:
> carolus wrote:
>> On 4/13/2010 3:46 PM, Craig Powers wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> In Thunderbird these
>>>> tools seem to work only on e-mail, not on newsgroups. Perhaps some
>>>> other newsreader has more capability, or perhaps I am misusing
>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Tools - Message Filters
>>> will pull up the dialog.
>>>
>>> It should then say, "Filters for: " with comp.lang.fortran in a
>>> dropdown. You can filter by from, to, and subject.
>>
>> It is currently set to delete messages with "buy" in the title, but
>> nothing happens (in the newsreader; it works fine for email).
>>
>
> Set the action to "Mark as read"

That doesn't seem to work either, either automatically or when I select
"Run filters on selected messages." Simply marking the spam would still
leave me with spam covering 90% of my screen area and would not be much
help, since the spam tends to come in big blocks that are already obvious.
From: A Watcher on
carolus wrote:
> On 4/16/2010 10:43 PM, A Watcher wrote:
>> carolus wrote:
>>> On 4/13/2010 3:46 PM, Craig Powers wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In Thunderbird these
>>>>> tools seem to work only on e-mail, not on newsgroups. Perhaps some
>>>>> other newsreader has more capability, or perhaps I am misusing
>>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> Tools - Message Filters
>>>> will pull up the dialog.
>>>>
>>>> It should then say, "Filters for: " with comp.lang.fortran in a
>>>> dropdown. You can filter by from, to, and subject.
>>>
>>> It is currently set to delete messages with "buy" in the title, but
>>> nothing happens (in the newsreader; it works fine for email).
>>>
>>
>> Set the action to "Mark as read"
>
> That doesn't seem to work either, either automatically or when I select
> "Run filters on selected messages." Simply marking the spam would still
> leave me with spam covering 90% of my screen area and would not be much
> help, since the spam tends to come in big blocks that are already obvious.

Do you also have yours set to only display unread threads?
From: Charles Russell on
A Watcher wrote:
> carolus wrote:
>> On 4/16/2010 10:43 PM, A Watcher wrote:
>>> carolus wrote:
>>>> On 4/13/2010 3:46 PM, Craig Powers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In Thunderbird these
>>>>>> tools seem to work only on e-mail, not on newsgroups. Perhaps some
>>>>>> other newsreader has more capability, or perhaps I am misusing
>>>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tools - Message Filters
>>>>> will pull up the dialog.
>>>>>
>>>>> It should then say, "Filters for: " with comp.lang.fortran in a
>>>>> dropdown. You can filter by from, to, and subject.
>>>>
>>>> It is currently set to delete messages with "buy" in the title, but
>>>> nothing happens (in the newsreader; it works fine for email).
>>>>
>>>
>>> Set the action to "Mark as read"
>>
>> That doesn't seem to work either, either automatically or when I
>> select "Run filters on selected messages." Simply marking the spam
>> would still leave me with spam covering 90% of my screen area and
>> would not be much help, since the spam tends to come in big blocks
>> that are already obvious.
>
> Do you also have yours set to only display unread threads?

No, I hadn't noticed that option. However, I can't get the filter to
work. The option "Run filters on folder" is blanked out when the folder
is a news account, though it is available for an email account.
From: Louis Krupp on
Charles Russell wrote:
> A Watcher wrote:
>> carolus wrote:
>>> On 4/16/2010 10:43 PM, A Watcher wrote:
>>>> carolus wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2010 3:46 PM, Craig Powers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In Thunderbird these
>>>>>>> tools seem to work only on e-mail, not on newsgroups. Perhaps some
>>>>>>> other newsreader has more capability, or perhaps I am misusing
>>>>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tools - Message Filters
>>>>>> will pull up the dialog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should then say, "Filters for: " with comp.lang.fortran in a
>>>>>> dropdown. You can filter by from, to, and subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is currently set to delete messages with "buy" in the title, but
>>>>> nothing happens (in the newsreader; it works fine for email).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Set the action to "Mark as read"
>>>
>>> That doesn't seem to work either, either automatically or when I
>>> select "Run filters on selected messages." Simply marking the spam
>>> would still leave me with spam covering 90% of my screen area and
>>> would not be much help, since the spam tends to come in big blocks
>>> that are already obvious.
>>
>> Do you also have yours set to only display unread threads?
>
> No, I hadn't noticed that option. However, I can't get the filter to
> work. The option "Run filters on folder" is blanked out when the folder
> is a news account, though it is available for an email account.

You don't need a filter. Pull down "View," hold the mouse over
"Threads," and select "Threads with Unread." When you see spam
messages, click the little green dot to mark them read, and go to
another newsgroup. When you come back to comp.lang.fortran, those bits
of spam will not appear.

It's not perfect, but it's the best I've been able to do.

Louis
From: Sjouke Burry on
Charles Russell wrote:
> A Watcher wrote:
>> carolus wrote:
>>> On 4/16/2010 10:43 PM, A Watcher wrote:
>>>> carolus wrote:
>>>>> On 4/13/2010 3:46 PM, Craig Powers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Thunderbird these
>>>>>>> tools seem to work only on e-mail, not on newsgroups. Perhaps some
>>>>>>> other newsreader has more capability, or perhaps I am misusing
>>>>>>> Thunderbird.
>>>>>> Tools - Message Filters
>>>>>> will pull up the dialog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should then say, "Filters for: " with comp.lang.fortran in a
>>>>>> dropdown. You can filter by from, to, and subject.
>>>>> It is currently set to delete messages with "buy" in the title, but
>>>>> nothing happens (in the newsreader; it works fine for email).
>>>>>
>>>> Set the action to "Mark as read"
>>> That doesn't seem to work either, either automatically or when I
>>> select "Run filters on selected messages." Simply marking the spam
>>> would still leave me with spam covering 90% of my screen area and
>>> would not be much help, since the spam tends to come in big blocks
>>> that are already obvious.
>> Do you also have yours set to only display unread threads?
>
> No, I hadn't noticed that option. However, I can't get the filter to
> work. The option "Run filters on folder" is blanked out when the folder
> is a news account, though it is available for an email account.
I am using the filters on many newsgroups , and they work fine.
BUT!!! only on new incoming news, not on those already in the list.
So setting a filter now, will only benefit you tomorrow.
Also, seeing the number of reponses to trolls, the filter will NOT
stop the responses.
Yet the group of people responding to each other in endless discussions,
can be removed by the filters, just right-click the from: part, and
select create filter from message.
In groups like sci.astro it cuts ~85 percent of the messages.