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From: zebra26 on 16 Mar 2006 16:42 I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused regarding the graphics. The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory. I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in the computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB? I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the graphics capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card of say 256 or 128 meg? There is 1 PCI express slot available in the machine. Z.
From: vellu on 16 Mar 2006 17:02 Depends on the separate graphics card, of course, but most likely almost any current card will outperform the integrated X200 chip by a very large margin indeed. The amount of graphics memory isn't a very big factor in graphics performance, it is the chip used which makes all the difference. And simply increasing your RAM amount doesn't do anything to graphics performance. On a side note, what an earth are you going to do with 3 or 4 GB's of memory anyway? There are very few applications (or games) that will benefit from that much memory (besides server use). zebra26(a)gmail.com kirjoitti: > I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused > regarding the graphics. > > The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon > xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory. > > I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in the > computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB? > > I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the graphics > capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card of say 256 or > 128 meg? > There is 1 PCI express slot available in the machine. > Z. >
From: abc on 16 Mar 2006 20:45 <zebra26(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:1142545374.360845.296620(a)j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused > regarding the graphics. > > The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon > xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory. > > I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in the > computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB? > > I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the graphics > capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card of say 256 or > 128 meg? Read the specs again, you onboard VGA will use up to 256 MB of system RAM (never more), probably adjustable in the BIOS. Also the ATI radeon xpress 200 is actually the chipset, which means it controls the entire motherboard, not just the video. Any amount of VGA memory will depend on your task. Using a desktop of 1600*1200(a)32 bpp, you will use about 16 MB, having more won't help your video performance. Large amounts of memory on VGA cards are used by 3D applications, and to date there are very few programs (only 1 game I am aware of) that benefit from having more than 256 MB of memory available. You would be better off doing this... http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=DVXA,DVXA:2005-12,DVXA:en&q=ATI+Radeon+Xpress+200+performance+comparison and reading some reviews, but don't forget most of these test machines have very fast CPUs, so depending on your CPU you will most likely have to scale the results down a bit. Having a quick look, most of these comparisons are with other chipsets, so to compare the results to add on VGA cards you will probably need to look at those test results separately then do the comparison. If you have a specific task in mind for you PC it might be best to state it. HTH P.S. I'm inclined to think people in this newsgroup most likely would not consider onboard VGA as an option, so have never done the comparison.
From: John Doe on 16 Mar 2006 23:40 zebra26(a)gmail.com wrote: > > I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused > regarding the graphics. > > The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon > xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory. > > I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in > the computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB? > > I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the > graphics capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card > of say 256 or 128 meg? There is 1 PCI express slot available in > the machine. Z. Built-in video is notorious for being slow compared to a video card. Its graphics capability depends on your application. If you are a gamer or a graphics artist, you don't want to use built-in video. The built-in video probably won't hurt since you can add a video card, but it's a waste of money and mainboard resources if you want performance. All of the cool stuff on a high-performance video card aren't on your mainboard. Good luck. -- beyond that, you will have to ask the regulars here
From: abc on 17 Mar 2006 05:01
"John Doe" <jdoe(a)usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message news:Xns9788E6AEAF90Ffollydom(a)207.115.17.102... > zebra26(a)gmail.com wrote: > >> >> I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused >> regarding the graphics. >> >> The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon >> xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory. >> >> I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in >> the computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB? >> >> I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the >> graphics capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card >> of say 256 or 128 meg? There is 1 PCI express slot available in >> the machine. Z. > > Built-in video is notorious for being slow compared to a video card. > Its graphics capability depends on your application. If you > are a gamer or a graphics artist, you don't want to use built-in > video. > > The built-in video probably won't hurt since you can add a video > card, but it's a waste of money and mainboard resources if you want > performance. > > All of the cool stuff on a high-performance video card aren't on > your mainboard. > > Good luck. > Check out the reviews for the chipset, it runs surprisingly well, just gets outdated too quickly that's all. |