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From: ?a/b on 20 May 2006 02:45 It is true that the first cpu was found in an alien spaceship? :)
From: donkey on 20 May 2006 02:46 Yes, and I would like it back as soon as possible.
From: o///annabee on 20 May 2006 02:59 P? Sat, 20 May 2006 08:45:02 +0200, skrev ?a\/b <al(a)f.g>: > It is true that the first cpu was found in an alien spaceship? :) :) Not sure but looking at windows, walking on my PC (as oposed to running), and the insanely redicolous new versions of Visual Studio, that took me 4 days to get to the point where it could start to install, (had to upgrade the OS, patch, reformat the harddrive structure ...ect... whereas it crashed during the install fase, I say that yes, it seems some alien created the CPUs and some MVP was in charge of the OS creations. From this day on, every Visual Studio user shall be known to me as a sub 80 IQ UTTERLY FLAT IDIOT. Its incredible funny to watch theese C programmers even dearing to speak in a asm ng, when their flagsships (Windows, Linux, Visual Studio) are nothing but a full fledged demonstration to the complete and utter uselessness of C.
From: santosh on 20 May 2006 03:41 \\\\\\o///annabee wrote: > På Sat, 20 May 2006 08:45:02 +0200, skrev ¬a\/b <al(a)f.g>: > > > It is true that the first cpu was found in an alien spaceship? :) > > :) Not sure but looking at windows, walking on my PC (as oposed to > running), and the insanely redicolous new versions of Visual Studio, that > took me 4 days to get to the point where it could start to install, (had > to upgrade the OS, patch, reformat the harddrive structure ...ect... > whereas it crashed during the install fase, I say that yes, it seems some > alien created the CPUs and some MVP was in charge of the OS creations. > > From this day on, every Visual Studio user shall be known to me as a sub > 80 IQ UTTERLY FLAT IDIOT. > > Its incredible funny to watch theese C programmers even dearing to speak > in a asm ng, when their flagsships (Windows, Linux, Visual Studio) are > nothing but a full fledged demonstration to the complete and utter > uselessness of C. Actually these days most of the MS software are written in C++ or C#. Soon, they'll be using .NET/CLI too. C is still used only in the core parts of the OS itself. Also it's not the language at fault but rather the programmers/corporation which, in it's battle against exponentially increasing complexity of it's software, is using yet more complexity to combat it. It is the outcome of a program created by a large team of programmers, (a few hundred probably), all coming and going over the years, and all told and taught to use abstraction upon abstraction. The present result is that a simple programming IDE now requires 256 Mb of RAM to run acceptably well. It's the programming methodology at fault and unfortunately, due to many circumstances, there is no getting out of it. MS produces software in the way it knows. If it's unacceptable, one's always free to code a fast, lean, open-source counterpart. It's easy to write fast, lean software. The real difficulty is to *keep* it fast and lean in spite of possibly hundereds of programmers participating and years of development for new features and so on.
From: o///annabee on 20 May 2006 05:11
P? Sat, 20 May 2006 09:41:06 +0200, skrev santosh <santosh.k83(a)gmail.com>: > Actually these days most of the MS software are written in C++ or C#. > Soon, they'll be using .NET/CLI too. C is still used only in the core > parts of the OS itself. I was ranting, but seriously I allways thought C++ and C# are more or less derivatives ( Integrals :) ) of/on c. Looking at c++ code, it looks to me very similar to c. > Also it's not the language at fault but rather the > programmers/corporation which, in it's battle against exponentially > increasing complexity of it's software, is using yet more complexity to > combat it. It is the outcome of a program created by a large team of > programmers, (a few hundred probably), all coming and going over the > years, and all told and taught to use abstraction upon abstraction. After having used RosAsm for 2 years, and fast programs written in asm, it is a real shocking experience to download some of the new creations. And Herbert is actually recommending us to use theese products.... ???? Oh, well, after 4 tries at installing Visual Studio, for a quick look, I just figured, enough time wasted, lets reformat&reinstall a less bloated Os, and hope ReactOs will not go down this same route. > The present result is that a simple programming IDE now requires 256 Mb > of RAM to run acceptably well. What is it that you gain from using theese tools? ...Anyone? > It's the programming methodology at fault and unfortunately, due to > many circumstances, there is no getting out of it. MS produces software > in the way it knows. If it's unacceptable, one's always free to code a > fast, lean, open-source counterpart. Yes, in theory. But programming asm in RosAsm under windows, is a walk in park compared to creating an OS. > It's easy to write fast, lean software. The real difficulty is to > *keep* it fast and lean in spite of possibly hundereds of programmers > participating and years of development for new features and so on. I guess. But why is it that we see so many incredible nice games for instance, but no rocking OSes? Maybe they should make the game programmers create the oses ? Why not? Theese days games are the major dessision when choosing an Os, for endusers anyway. |