the limits of googling
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From: James Youngman on 28 Jun 2008 11:10 On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Google searching is (still?) primitive. > > I would like to know the answer to a simple question: > > What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog > (RJ-11) modem installed? > > Listed by highest price first. > > Hugo > > PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist. > But how do you prove that with Google? Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most laptops I'd guess. James. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Hugo Vanwoerkom on 28 Jun 2008 11:50 James Youngman wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Google searching is (still?) primitive. >> >> I would like to know the answer to a simple question: >> >> What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog >> (RJ-11) modem installed? >> >> Listed by highest price first. >> >> Hugo >> >> PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist. >> But how do you prove that with Google? > > > Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a > proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most > laptops I'd guess. > Indeed. But it irks me that I can't google for it(1) and to pay more than for a desktop with a piece of equipment that doesn't work(2). Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Nate Bargmann on 28 Jun 2008 16:30 * Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> [2008 Jun 28 09:01 -0500]: I can't answer except from personal experience. The former Lucent now Agere chipset seems well supported by the Martian Modem driver in Non-free. I have Thinkpads 390e and T23 with that chipset and nary a problem. I know they're quite old by now. Several years ago I had used a T42 with another chipset that was supported by the HSF modem, I believe. The author required $10 for a code to run at higher than 14.4 kbps. That was a bit of a pain but it worked well enough. I don't even know if analog modem functionality is included in new laptops. We have some T60s at work and I'm not sure about them or the new Dells. Even PCMCIA card slots may become a thing of the past. Does anyone make a USB modem? - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Celejar on 28 Jun 2008 22:30 On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:45:13 +0100 "James Youngman" <jay(a)gnu.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Google searching is (still?) primitive. > > > > I would like to know the answer to a simple question: > > > > What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog > > (RJ-11) modem installed? > > > > Listed by highest price first. > > > > Hugo > > > > PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist. > > But how do you prove that with Google? > > > Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a > proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most > laptops I'd guess. They are also readily available on Ebay, for about $10 US including shipping (to USA). See this list of compatible hardware [0]. I use a Xircom, which works quite well. > James. [0] http://pcmcia-cs.sourceforge.net/ftp/SUPPORTED.CARDS [see the section "Modem and serial cards:"] Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org
From: Owen Townend on 28 Jun 2008 22:40
On 29/06/2008, James Youngman <jay(a)gnu.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom <hvw59601(a)care2.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Google searching is (still?) primitive. > > > > I would like to know the answer to a simple question: > > > > What are the most recent laptops that run Linux *and* have a working analog > > (RJ-11) modem installed? > > > > Listed by highest price first. > > > > Hugo > > > > PS All the searching I have done lead me to believe that they don't exist. > > But how do you prove that with Google? > > > > Not strictly an answer to your question, but the Linux Emporium sell a > proper hardware modem in a PCMCIA card, which should work with most > laptops I'd guess. > > > James. > Hey, Again sidestepping the actual question: I had this same issue when they started phasing out RS232 ports from laptops, the solution for me was to use a usb adapter. I believe the same solution may apply here. Staying with the google theme there are results such as these: http://www.google.com/products?&q=usb+56K+modem+linux Though it then becomes yet another dongle to carry around... cheers, Owen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org |