From: Alan Cox on
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:57:52 +0200 (CEST)
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh(a)medozas.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am proposing the patch below for inclusion.
> Also pullable via
> git://dev.medozas.de/linux siso

It seems to do a lot of other things as well. Can you split out just the
relevant bit ?

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From: Alexander E. Patrakov on
Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> vt: deactive Shift In/Out in unicode mode
>
> WP describes these control codes as: "The original meaning of those
> characters was to switch to a different character set and back. This
> was used, for instance, in the Russian character set known as KOI7,
> where SO starts printing Russian letters, and SI starts printing Latin
> letters again."

Since KOI7 is not used by any glibc locale, your use case is now
extinct. I think that, unless someone finds out a different use case,
these SI and SO characters should be deactivated completely (and not
just in unicode mode).

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From: Jan Engelhardt on

On Monday 2010-04-19 16:31, Alan Cox wrote:
>>
>> I am proposing the patch below for inclusion.
>> Also pullable via
>> git://dev.medozas.de/linux siso
>
>It seems to do a lot of other things as well. Can you split out just the
>relevant bit ?

It's really just the top commit. Perhaps I should rebase it to a
v2.6.34-rcX tag so that shortlog does what one expects.

Alexander mentioned:

[quoting the gmane nntp posting which was stripped of To:s and Cc:s]
>
>Since KOI7 is not used by any glibc locale, your use case is now
>extinct. I think that, unless someone finds out a different use case,
>these SI and SO characters should be deactivated completely (and not
>just in unicode mode).

Alan, do you agree that the entire SI/SO can/should be removed?
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From: James Cloos on
>>>>> "AEP" == Alexander E Patrakov <patrakov(a)gmail.com> writes:

AEP> Since KOI7 is not used by any glibc locale, your use case is now
AEP> extinct. I think that, unless someone finds out a different use case,
AEP> these SI and SO characters should be deactivated completely (and not
AEP> just in unicode mode).

SI/SO is also relevant for line draw characters and the like.

Here is a key for the default set in my (X11) term emulator,
I presume it is the same as what the console supports:

_ ` a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z { | } ~
▮ ◆ ▒ ␉ ␌ ␍ ␊ ° ± ␤ ␋ ┘ ┐ ┌ └ ┼ ⎺ ⎻ ─ ⎼ ⎽ ├ ┤ ┴ ┬ │ ≤ ≥ π ≠ £ ·

Those are important, and the console should continue to support them
even when not in UTF-8 mode.

-JimC
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From: H. Peter Anvin on
On 04/19/2010 09:20 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
>
> On Monday 2010-04-19 16:31, Alan Cox wrote:
>>>
>>> I am proposing the patch below for inclusion.
>>> Also pullable via
>>> git://dev.medozas.de/linux siso
>>
>> It seems to do a lot of other things as well. Can you split out just the
>> relevant bit ?
>
> It's really just the top commit. Perhaps I should rebase it to a
> v2.6.34-rcX tag so that shortlog does what one expects.
>
> Alexander mentioned:
>
> [quoting the gmane nntp posting which was stripped of To:s and Cc:s]
>>
>> Since KOI7 is not used by any glibc locale, your use case is now
>> extinct. I think that, unless someone finds out a different use case,
>> these SI and SO characters should be deactivated completely (and not
>> just in unicode mode).
>
> Alan, do you agree that the entire SI/SO can/should be removed?

VT line drawing characters are generally assumed to be accessible using
SI/SO (as they are by default.)

-hpa
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