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From: stan on 7 Apr 2008 18:49
titicaca wrote:
> On Apr 7, 2:16 am, stan <smo...(a)exis.net> wrote:
>> overlord wrote:
>>
>> > Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> >> overlord wrote:
>> >> > I have no life other than trolling Usenet
>>
>> >> Just ignore it. Thank you :P
>>
>> > trolling?
>>
>> > what trolling?
>>
>> > why is suse open
>>
>> > and what hey paid that big money for, hmm?
>>
>> > who is trolling now, still you?
>>
>> > or you are just stupid?
>>
>> Did you have an actual question? Suse has always been based on open
>> source and still is, so it's difficult to determine what you are asking
>> if you are truly seeking knowledge and not trolling.
>
> then why are the other distribution not
> "open" but free, you fool

Free as in 'free beer' or 'free speech'? At any rate you seem to lack
any fundamental grasp of "free" or "open" software and you don't really
seem to have a clue about Suse. I just downloaded Suse 10.4 and burned a
dvd and it didn't cost me a dime since my neighbor gave me some double
layer dvd's that would't work with his drive.

As for other distributions, they are bound by whatever licenses apply
to the individual parts they distibute. Many/most of the typical
packages are covered by one of the GNU licenses. In other words, the
playing field is level.

You have ansewered the question about whether you are honestly trying to
ask a question or troll. As trolls go you're not very good at it, but
you do have the gratuitious name calling and ad hominem attacks off to a
good start. With any luck and if you work really hard you might get good
at trolling before you grow up or they get your medication correct.
From: Peter Baumann on 8 Apr 2008 08:41
stan schrieb:
> titicaca wrote:
>> On Apr 7, 2:16 am, stan <smo...(a)exis.net> wrote:
>>> overlord wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>> overlord wrote:
>>>>>> I have no life other than trolling Usenet
>>>>> Just ignore it. Thank you :P
>>>> trolling?
>>>> what trolling?
>>>> why is suse open
>>>> and what hey paid that big money for, hmm?
>>>> who is trolling now, still you?
>>>> or you are just stupid?
>>> Did you have an actual question? Suse has always been based on open
>>> source and still is, so it's difficult to determine what you are asking
>>> if you are truly seeking knowledge and not trolling.
>> then why are the other distribution not
>> "open" but free, you fool
>
> Free as in 'free beer' or 'free speech'? At any rate you seem to lack
> any fundamental grasp of "free" or "open" software and you don't really
> seem to have a clue about Suse. I just downloaded Suse 10.4 and burned a
> dvd and it didn't cost me a dime since my neighbor gave me some double
> layer dvd's that would't work with his drive.
>
> As for other distributions, they are bound by whatever licenses apply
> to the individual parts they distibute. Many/most of the typical
> packages are covered by one of the GNU licenses. In other words, the
> playing field is level.
>
> You have ansewered the question about whether you are honestly trying to
> ask a question or troll. As trolls go you're not very good at it, but
> you do have the gratuitious name calling and ad hominem attacks off to a
> good start. With any luck and if you work really hard you might get good
> at trolling before you grow up or they get your medication correct.
I wonder, where you could have downloaded a Suse 10.4?
The newest Suse-Linux is 9.3.
From: polpak on 11 Apr 2008 10:01
openSUSE 10.3 (X86-64)
Release 10.3
Kernel Linux 2.6.22.17-0.1-default
GNOME 2.20.0

try looking at http://www.opensuse.org/

Or, http://software.opensuse.org/


am very pleased to have changes to it ;-)

From: houghi on 11 Apr 2008 11:21
polpak wrote:

<snip>
This is not a flame. This is advice on how to get better help and keep
this newsgroup clean
Short story: Please read http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/

Long story:
Google unfortunately decided not to use the standards of quoting on
Usenet. There are several solutions to this problem. The best is to use a
newsreader. For Windows there is e.g. FreeAgent and for Linux there is
Pan, Knode or slrn, among others.

Just point your newsreader to your providers Usenet server. If they do not
have a Usenetserver, look up a payserver, like http://giganews.com or a
free server like news.sunsite.dk (registration required)

Now what if you are not at home all the time and that is your reason to
select google? Glad you asked.
If you have a fixed connection, you can use a dyndns server to make a
connection to your home linux machine over ssl and use anything that is
on your home computer.
e.g. ssh home.example.com and then run slrn. GUI interfaces are possible
as well on any OS.
If you are unable to keep a connection up, you can register at
http://www.rootshell.be and then connect to there and use slrn on that
machine. slrn is textbased and might be scary at first. As Usenet is
text anyway, you will very fast learn how to use it and configure it.

Only if all else fails and you have no option in using Usnet in any other
way, including waiting till you get home, you can use Google. You can
still quote correctly as described on the following page:
http://www.safalra.com/special/googlegroupsreply/

Understand that many people already filter out google postings. So best
look for an alternative. Usenet is not WWW. If you want WWW, look up
a webforum. This is not a webforum.

I sympathize with your problems, and am more than willing to help you
solve them. To do so you should follow the correct quoting principles
and good Netiquette explained in this FAQ available at;
http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/

Until then I and many other regulars who could give you good advice
won't do so. So in the interest of solving your problems, quote correctly
and ask Google to reinstate the correct way of quoting.

Remember: this was not a flame, this was helping you to get the best response
and help possible.

houghi
--
You can have my keyboard ...
if you can pry it from my dead, cold, stiff fingers
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