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From: H. S. Lahman on 1 Jan 2008 19:13 Responding to Pandit... > I have done some C++ and Java programming. I want to learn OOP and > majority of people advised me to go through Analyss -> Design -> > Programmig path. My friend "arnuld uttre" (who hangs here sometimes ) > usually calls it like: > > OOA -> OOD -> -> UML (notation) -> OOP --> Refactoring > > > I am prety much a beginner in OO world. after searching comp.object a > little bit and checking my local bookstores, I have following books > available to me: > > > 1.) Object-Oriented Analysis & Design with Applications -- Grady Booch > 2.) Object-Oriented Modelling & Design with UML -- James Rumbaugh > 3.) Designing Object-Oriented Software -- Wirf-Brock > 4.) Fundamentals of Object-Oriented Design in UML > -- Meillir page-jones > > > Booch and Rumbaugh always puzzled me to extreme :( . I never ever > understood what exactly they aretalking about. Hmmm. Are you talking about reading the Booch & Rumbaugh books or just journal articles by them? Both books are pretty elementary OOA/D and if you had trouble with them I suspect you will have trouble with /all/ of the others. If you were just confused by articles, that could largely be due to context; space limitations usually requires that such articles assume substantial existing knowledge on the part of the reader. -- There is nothing wrong with me that could not be cured by a capful of Drano. H. S. Lahman hsl(a)pathfindermda.com Pathfinder Solutions http://www.pathfindermda.com blog: http://pathfinderpeople.blogs.com/hslahman "Model-Based Translation: The Next Step in Agile Development". Email info(a)pathfindermda.com for your copy. Pathfinder is hiring: http://www.pathfindermda.com/about_us/careers_pos3.php. (888)OOA-PATH
From: arnuld on 2 Jan 2008 00:20 > On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:16:02 -0800, Daniel T. wrote: > I must say that I find "Designing Object-Oriented Software" by Rebecca > Wirfs-Brock quite expensive here in the USA as well, especially when > taking into account that it is paper-back and only 340 pages. Amazon > USA sells it for $69 (2700 INR.) yes, add 2700 INR more for shipping, not to mention that there is no guarntee that t wll be delivered to me :( . In India, gifts, books etc sent from outside of our country gets lost when it reaches, at least most of the times. To be true, courier people or the Indian Postal Deptt. opens that package and if they like that thing, they keep it for themselves, that is usual practice here. That is why when I ordered books from Amazon, England I gave my friend's address in England and he brought them here. > Are you buying "pirated" copies of the books? Nah.. Pirted copies are availabe mostly for SF novels and Pesonality-Development books. It never saw any pirated copy of any programming text. > How much will the Wirfs-Brock book cost you? that is cheap. "Pandit" dooes not have much internet facility, so i tell him all the costs involved. Wirf-Brock is the cheapest OOA/D book available. Rememebr these are so called "Economy Editions" so cheap paper and very cheap cover. see the full list here: OOA & D with Applications (Booch) : 419 OOM & Design with UML (Rumbaugh) : 225 OOSE (Ivar Jacobson) : 473 Fundamentals of OOD in UML (Page-Jones) : 338 Designing OO Software (Wirf-Brock) : 225 Effective C++ 3/e : 495 C++ Coding Standards : 225 TC++PL special/edition (Strouostrup) : 608 add 100 INR for shipping + 10 INR for each book you will buy. To give you and idea, 400 INR is a big amount for a middle-class family. BTW, a good computer with 512 RAM + AMD Sempron Prcessor costs around 27000 INR. Highly-Expansive :(
From: Pandit on 2 Jan 2008 00:55 On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:13:58 +0000, H. S. Lahman wrote: > Wed, 02 Jan 2008 00:13:58 +0000, H. S. Lahman wrote: > Hmmm. Are you talking about reading the Booch & Rumbaugh books or just > journal articles by them? I am talking about Booch's book OOA&D with Applications :\ > Both books are pretty elementary OOA/D and if you had trouble with them > I suspect you will have trouble with /all/ of the others. If you were > just confused by articles, that could largely be due to context; space > limitations usually requires that such articles assume substantial > existing knowledge on the part of the reader. what about others , e.g Ivar Jacobson, Page-Jones and Wirf-Brock ?
From: S Perryman on 2 Jan 2008 04:53 arnuld wrote: >>On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:16:02 -0800, Daniel T. wrote: >>I must say that I find "Designing Object-Oriented Software" by Rebecca >>Wirfs-Brock quite expensive here in the USA as well, especially when >>taking into account that it is paper-back and only 340 pages. Amazon >>USA sells it for $69 (2700 INR.) > yes, add 2700 INR more for shipping, not to mention that there is no > guarntee that t wll be delivered to me :( . In India, gifts, books etc > sent from outside of our country gets lost when it reaches, at least most > of the times. To be true, courier people or the Indian Postal Deptt. opens > that package and if they like that thing, they keep it for themselves, > that is usual practice here. Some info that may be of use to denizens of certain nations ... AFAIK, some publishers do (or did) designate those parts of the world as "developing nation" status. Which meant that the same books in the West were available at dirt-cheap prices. Hong Kong, by some quirk had been accorded this status. I discovered that in the 1990s when I went there, and bought/shipped nearly all of my companys' tech library at about 1/3 the cost of the UK (HK sadly no longer gets this luxury :-( :-) ) . There may be other nations closer to India (Singapore looked a good prospect when I was looking for a new "silk road" :-) ) with such status that are worth assessing (if you have Internet access etc) . > That is why when I ordered books from > Amazon, England I gave my friend's address in England and he brought them > here. With the exchange rate at sterling about $2 US, getting them to buy stuff from Amazon USA may work out even better than ordering from the UK. Regards, Steven Perryman
From: H. S. Lahman on 2 Jan 2008 15:38
Responding to Pandit... >> Hmmm. Are you talking about reading the Booch & Rumbaugh books or just >> journal articles by them? > > I am talking about Booch's book OOA&D with Applications :\ > > > >> Both books are pretty elementary OOA/D and if you had trouble with them >> I suspect you will have trouble with /all/ of the others. If you were >> just confused by articles, that could largely be due to context; space >> limitations usually requires that such articles assume substantial >> existing knowledge on the part of the reader. > > what about others , e.g Ivar Jacobson, Page-Jones and Wirf-Brock ? If you had problems with the Booch book, then I think you will have similar problems with the others. Booch's book is pretty introductory OOA/D stuff and I believe his target audience was novice software developers with little or no OOA/D experience. I can only suggest going back and re-reading it from the beginning while thinking about how he uses OO constructs to abstract the problem space. Better yet would be finding someone with OO experience who could provide some mentoring for you. -- There is nothing wrong with me that could not be cured by a capful of Drano. H. S. Lahman hsl(a)pathfindermda.com Pathfinder Solutions http://www.pathfindermda.com blog: http://pathfinderpeople.blogs.com/hslahman "Model-Based Translation: The Next Step in Agile Development". Email info(a)pathfindermda.com for your copy. Pathfinder is hiring: http://www.pathfindermda.com/about_us/careers_pos3.php. (888)OOA-PATH |