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From: mm on 13 Apr 2008 14:03
A note to the computer owner, who leaves on a long trip tomorrow, with
this computer if it works. Arnold, this email includes, towards the
end, instructions that you might have to do. If you have your desk
computer set not to delete the mail from your server, you can download
this and previous emails to your laptop when you pick it up.

If you don't have it set that way, you should set it to not delete
emails until say 3 days after you look at them. Then you can find the
technical emails I've sent you and reply or forward them to yourself,
and download all your email to your laptop, which is easier than
copying everything by hand. Or you could print them out too from your
desk computer.

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:27:15 -0400, mm <NOPSAMmm2005(a)bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I'm in the middle of writing a post about the old Mac laptop i posted
>about earlier. In short, I had the browser working for a half hour
>and then I had to go out.

OKAY, I think I might have found the problem now.

Does anyone here know Macintosh? It might help, but maybe it's not
needed.

Because I earlier had to make changes in the TCP/IP control panel, I
entered the TCP/IP control panel and it said that the connection had
been changed to Ethernet (but not by me), and I looked at the list of
choices it could be, and I think I had changed it to Orinoco the last
time (and that is the software for this wireless card).

So I changed it to Orinoco again, and then a box opens up that wants
to know how to configure.

The drop down menu gave the choices of using the bootIP server, the
RARP server, the DHCP server, or manually?

Manually wants to know a bunch of other stuff, and the only
abbreviation I recognized is DHCP.

So I chose that and now it wants to know the DHCP Client ID.

What is that?

I'm using a D-Link router, Number 524 I think, and I went to the
Home/DHCP page, and it's enabled, and it has starting IP address and
an ending address,

and a provision for a fixed IP address, that I didn't use because the
default was the one above. But that section has a box labeled DHCP
Client!! And a 12 character number like a Mac ID. Prefixed by OEM
Computer. By OEM, do they mean the computer it is hardwired to, or
what? and is this the number I'm supposed to put in the MAC
software?**

Well I put it in and saved it (by clicking on the exit box in the
upper left corner--it does have a great help system that when started,
puts instruction in a box in the lower left and makes red "magic
marker" lines around the box you're supposed to fill in, for example.
If you have turned on "balloons".

So it's working again now, but it sure wasn't obvious. And one of
Mac's selling points is that it's easy to use, iirc.


Now, what is he supposed to do in a netcafe. He won't know the DHCP
client number will he? and neither will the guy running the cafe. He
can do it manually but then I think he has to fill in the IP number,
and maybe the submask number and a couple other numbers. What do
people with Macintosh or maybe it's Orinoco do?

Thinking back, when I got this working the first time, I didn't enter
any DHCP client number. And I didn't click on that little box on the
upper left. I don't remember how I got out of that box, although I
think another box oened up. And maybe that had Save and Cancel
buttons. Or maybe I never got out and maybe that never saved it so it
only worked for that session??? OTOH, isn't it a general principle of
computers that just typing a number in a field won't do anything until
the number is saved somehow?


** Below on the Dynmamic DHCP Client List on my software, they also
list the OEM computer, plus 6 other entries all with different MAC
addresses. The OEM computer MAC address is the same as the DHCP
client number above. I'll have to check out the other 5 entries, but
one is the Macintosh I'm working on. That's before I got the computer
working today.

BTW, Arnie, even if this all works, if you are at a place with a
network cable but no wireless, it sounds like you will have to go into
Control Panels/TCP-IP control Panel, and then change your source to
Ethernet. I don't if it asks questions after that, and I don't want
to try it yet. But if you click on the ? mark, the Help process
starts.

I'll ask on a Macintosh ng and try to get specific answers if no one
on the wireless newsgroup knows. I wonder if That Bloke is reading.

I wonder if this would be easier with a newer Mac OS. Not at all sure
it would be. Maybe it will seem easy after we're used to it, but
with the IBM laptop, I could go from the cable to the wireless with no
changes other than plugging and unplugging the cable. AT least I think
I could.



If you are inclined to email me
for some reason, remove NOPSAM :-)
From: Bill Kearney on 15 Apr 2008 16:04
Just get a new card with decent drivers. In the end your time wasted will
far exceed the cost of a new card.

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