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From: randyhyde@earthlink.net on 23 Aug 2005 18:07 JGCASEY wrote: > So without the directives it would be written > something like this? > > Here: > invoke GetMessage, ADDR msg, NULL, 0, 0 > cmp eax,0 > jnz ExitLoop > invoke TrasnlateMessage, ADDR msg > invoke DispatchMessage, ADDR msg > jmp Here > ExitLoop: > > > Thanks for the post I am starting to get a > few misconceptions corrected, I think :) If you want to see the actual code that MASM emits for any of the HLL-like statements, just use the /EP command line object. This will produce a "pure" assembly language output file that you can read. Cheers, Randy Hyde
From: Betov on 24 Aug 2005 03:57 "JGCASEY" <jgkjcasey(a)yahoo.com.au> ýcrivait news:1124832062.098222.69180 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > > Ludwig Hýhne wrote: > >> As you are experienced with assembly you might >> prefer Test Departments Win32 demos written in >> plain asm and are also available for RosAsm: >> >> http://www.rosasm.org/TDtuts.zip > > I downloaded the Test Departement Win32 Tutorials > but I only seem to get the .exe files? RosAsm is a fully integrated System for PEs Production: You just run RosAsm and [Open] the exe file. If it is a RosAsm produced PE, the Source is inside the Exe, in a Section that Windows cannot read, but that you will see with RosAsm Sources Editor. If it is not a RosAsm produced PE, it will, then, propose you to disassemble it. With RosAsm a "Project", is, simply, the produced PE, with everything inside, so that you work with only _one_ single file. No external Resources, no external Source (unless you want it...). Just _one_ File. What is a very great innovation for Assembly Developements, and a great devs security. Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: Betov on 24 Aug 2005 04:00 "randyhyde(a)earthlink.net" <randyhyde(a)earthlink.net> ýcrivait news:1124834872.608065.84810(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > If you want to see the actual code that MASM emits for any of the > HLL-like statements, just use the /EP command line object. This will > produce a "pure" assembly language output file that you can read. Which is the definitive demonstration that MASM is _NOT_ an Assembler, but, instead, an Assembly Compiler. Betov. < http://rosasm.org >
From: JGCASEY on 24 Aug 2005 07:54 randyhyde(a)earthlink.net wrote: > JGCASEY wrote: >> So without the directives it would be written >> something like this? > >> Here: >> invoke GetMessage, ADDR msg, NULL, 0, 0 >> cmp eax,0 >> jnz ExitLoop >> invoke TrasnlateMessage, ADDR msg >> invoke DispatchMessage, ADDR msg >> jmp Here >> ExitLoop: > > > If you want to see the actual code that MASM > emits for any of the HLL-like statements, just > use the /EP command line object. This will > produce a "pure" assembly language output file > that you can read. Can this be done using the RadAsm IDE? I have opted to learn how to use it to write Window assembler programs as it appears to make it much easier and supports most of the assemblers on offer. I have found some good examples of how MASM translates these HLL-like statements to "pure" assembler. Cheers, John Casey
From: randyhyde@earthlink.net on 24 Aug 2005 10:35
Betov wrote: > "randyhyde(a)earthlink.net" <randyhyde(a)earthlink.net> écrivait > news:1124834872.608065.84810(a)g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > > > If you want to see the actual code that MASM emits for any of the > > HLL-like statements, just use the /EP command line object. This will > > produce a "pure" assembly language output file that you can read. > > > Which is the definitive demonstration that MASM is _NOT_ > an Assembler, but, instead, an Assembly Compiler. Right click on "eax=ecx*5+edx/2" in RosAsm and you'll have definitive proof that RosAsm is a *compiler* and not an assembler. Then again, just looking at this code should tell you that. Likewise, noticing the presence of the "PREPARSE" statement in a RosAsm source file immediately tells you that RosAsm is a PREPARSER, not an assembler. You don't have to right-click or anything to see that. Cheers, Randy Hyde |