Boot and system track positions for XP
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From: DAW on 29 Jun 2010 18:09 Does anyone know whether I can use a disk manager to move the starting position of my drive C: XP system up to a higher position on the first drive to make room for installation of Open Server below Windows? Background: For many years I ran a dual OS System with DOS and SCO Open Server Unix, and later with various versions of Windows and SCO Open Server. I changed the active partition using a Novell DOS boot diskette with a compatible fdisk to change the active partition, or the Open Server fdisk to change the active partition from within Unix prior to shut down. Also, if the active partition is Unix I could, at the boot: prompt, use a Unix command "bootos" and boot into DOS or Windows. This worked fine until I got to Windows XP Pro which just took up too much space, given the requirement that Open Server must boot from within the first 1024 tracks. I had to remove Open Server at that point. Now someone has suggested that I can use the disk manager product I have, in this case Acronis Disk Director, to free up perhaps a Gb or so at the start of the first drive and install Open Server there, thus meeting the 1024 track requirement since Unix would be on the start of that first drive. I'm looking for someone to verify that XP Pro will reliably boot from a location starting somewhere up in the first drive instead of being the first operating system on the drive. Until I got into XP the first drive contained C:. Open Server, and G: Not really neat but it worked fine. Now the layout is C: and G: and Open Server is not on the system, except for some data and program files that are sitting safely on a couple of SCSI drives, which I can re-link if I get Open Server running again. I apologize for making this question so long but I want to be sure I lay out all the facts. Also, in a couple of days I will lose access to the Usenet, courtesy of Cox, which is discontinuing it. Thanks, DAW
From: philo on 29 Jun 2010 20:05 On 06/29/2010 05:09 PM, DAW wrote: > Does anyone know whether I can use a disk manager to move the starting > position of my drive C: XP system up to a higher position on the first drive > to make room for installation of Open Server below Windows? > > Background: For many years I ran a dual OS System with DOS and SCO Open > Server Unix, and later with various versions of Windows and SCO Open Server. > > I changed the active partition using a Novell DOS boot diskette with a > compatible fdisk to change the active partition, or the Open Server fdisk to > change the active partition from within Unix prior to shut down. Also, if > the active partition is Unix I could, at the boot: prompt, use a Unix > command "bootos" and boot into DOS or Windows. > > This worked fine until I got to Windows XP Pro which just took up too much > space, given the requirement that Open Server must boot from within the > first 1024 tracks. I had to remove Open Server at that point. > > Now someone has suggested that I can use the disk manager product I have, in > this case Acronis Disk Director, to free up perhaps a Gb or so at the start > of the first drive and install Open Server there, thus meeting the 1024 > track requirement since Unix would be on the start of that first drive. > > I'm looking for someone to verify that XP Pro will reliably boot from a > location starting somewhere up in the first drive instead of being the first > operating system on the drive. > > Until I got into XP the first drive contained C:. Open Server, and G: Not > really neat but it worked fine. Now the layout is C: and G: and Open Server > is not on the system, except for some data and program files that are > sitting safely on a couple of SCSI drives, which I can re-link if I get Open > Server running again. > > I apologize for making this question so long but I want to be sure I lay out > all the facts. Also, in a couple of days I will lose access to the Usenet, > courtesy of Cox, which is discontinuing it. > > Thanks, > > DAW > > The files needed to boot XP *must* be located on your active primary partition however the rest of Windows can be installed on another logical drive
From: DAW on 29 Jun 2010 22:14 "philo" <philo(a)privacy.net> wrote in message news:AfGdnbtVHZGsF7fRnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d(a)ntd.net... > > The files needed to boot XP *must* be located on your active primary > partition > > however the rest of Windows can be installed on another logical drive > > Thanks, Can this active primary partition be located on the first drive after another operating system. For example can I move the current content of Drive C for XP up a couple of Gb and install Open Server Unix as the first OS on that drive. There is plenty of room for all of Win XP and I will have the capability of changing active partitions with a Boot diskette with a good version of fdisk on it or from Unix with the Unix fdisk. I will be losing access to Usenet tonight or tomorrow because Cox is dropping it and I resent losing it and not getting a reduced rate from Cox. I am now working on finding another server but may miss your answer. Thanks, DAW
From: philo on 30 Jun 2010 16:50 On 06/29/2010 09:14 PM, DAW wrote: > "philo"<philo(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > news:AfGdnbtVHZGsF7fRnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d(a)ntd.net... >> >> The files needed to boot XP *must* be located on your active primary >> partition >> >> however the rest of Windows can be installed on another logical drive >> >> > Thanks, > > Can this active primary partition be located on the first drive after > another operating system. For example can I move the current content of > Drive C for XP up a couple of Gb and install Open Server Unix as the first > OS on that drive. There is plenty of room for all of Win XP and I will have > the capability of changing active partitions with a Boot diskette with a > good version of fdisk on it or from Unix with the Unix fdisk. > > I will be losing access to Usenet tonight or tomorrow because Cox is > dropping it and I resent losing it and not getting a reduced rate from Cox. > I am now working on finding another server but may miss your answer. > > Thanks, > > DAW > > Unless you use some type of a third party boot manager you will need to at least create a small, active primary partition to hold your Windows boot files ...it can be a very small partition... it only needs to hold boot.ini ntdetect.com and ntldr even a one meg partition should do the trick the rest of Windows can be installed anywhere BTW: Rather than take a risk of breaking your current system why not just install Open Server on another drive?
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