Can't change margin settings
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From: MaryL on 14 Jan 2010 00:59 I want to change the bottom margin so I can eliminate the last page of a document that contains just a few lines of text. This should be a very simple procedure, but I have been completely unsuccessful after several attempts. I am using Office 2007 (Compatibility Mode) and Vista Home Premium. If I go to Page Layout>Margins>Custom Margins, and change the bottom to .75" instead of the default 1" (then click on "OK"), the entire document remains exactly the same. There are no changes in page breaks, lines on a page, etc. Can someone explain what is going on and how I can produce this simple change? In WordPerfect, I can view the margin guidelines and simply "grab" them to move. However, I cannot locate a similar feature in Word. Thanks, MaryL
From: "Tony Jollans" My forename at my surname dot on 14 Jan 2010 04:31 You can also click and drag margins in Word. Small changes to margins do not necessarily cause text to move; there are other factors that come into play - widow/orphan control for example. Without more information it is impossible to say what may have happened in your case, but some experimentation may be needed - for example, moving the right margin just enough to squeeze an extra word on the right line can sometimes have a dramatc effect. -- Enjoy, Tony www.WordArticles.com "MaryL" <stancole1(a)yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message news:ePTfQ7NlKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I want to change the bottom margin so I can eliminate the last page of a >document that contains just a few lines of text. This should be a very >simple procedure, but I have been completely unsuccessful after several >attempts. I am using Office 2007 (Compatibility Mode) and Vista Home >Premium. If I go to Page Layout>Margins>Custom Margins, and change the >bottom to .75" instead of the default 1" (then click on "OK"), the entire >document remains exactly the same. There are no changes in page breaks, >lines on a page, etc. > > Can someone explain what is going on and how I can produce this simple > change? In WordPerfect, I can view the margin guidelines and simply > "grab" them to move. However, I cannot locate a similar feature in Word. > > Thanks, > MaryL
From: MaryL on 14 Jan 2010 08:24 Thanks. I have had a great deal of difficulty trying to find some basics for Word in either the help files or the manuals I have. For example, I have done a lot of searching and cannot find the setting for widow and orphan. That was one of the potential problems I thought of, but the knowledge base directed me to settings that I do not even find in my version. Likewise, I haven't found any way to drag the margin settings because the guidelines do not show up on my computer. The references I have found direct me to tabs that I do not even find on my version. For example, one reference directs me to "Format." I cannot find a Format tab. Then I was supposed to select "Normal." Again, where is it? The help files do not seem to have an alphabetical search feature such as what I have in other programs. Instead, there are very general topics, and I have not found what I need after selecting many of those topics. Can you give me some information on how to find and set (or unset) widows and orphans and also how to view guidelines for margins so I could click and drag them? I am aware that even a slight change in the left or right margins will often make a change, but I should also be able to do the same thing by changing the bottom margin. That is what does not seem to work for me, and I have not been able to check widow and orphan because I haven't found the location. Thanks, MaryL "Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> wrote in message news:etOsgxPlKHA.2188(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > You can also click and drag margins in Word. > > Small changes to margins do not necessarily cause text to move; there are > other factors that come into play - widow/orphan control for example. > Without more information it is impossible to say what may have happened in > your case, but some experimentation may be needed - for example, moving > the right margin just enough to squeeze an extra word on the right line > can sometimes have a dramatc effect. > > -- > Enjoy, > Tony > > www.WordArticles.com > > "MaryL" <stancole1(a)yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message > news:ePTfQ7NlKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>I want to change the bottom margin so I can eliminate the last page of a >>document that contains just a few lines of text. This should be a very >>simple procedure, but I have been completely unsuccessful after several >>attempts. I am using Office 2007 (Compatibility Mode) and Vista Home >>Premium. If I go to Page Layout>Margins>Custom Margins, and change the >>bottom to .75" instead of the default 1" (then click on "OK"), the entire >>document remains exactly the same. There are no changes in page breaks, >>lines on a page, etc. >> >> Can someone explain what is going on and how I can produce this simple >> change? In WordPerfect, I can view the margin guidelines and simply >> "grab" them to move. However, I cannot locate a similar feature in Word. >> >> Thanks, >> MaryL >
From: Suzanne S. Barnhill on 14 Jan 2010 08:21 Are you sure you changed the margin for the entire document and not just a specific section? See http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/Formatting/FitCopy.htm for other copyfitting methods. -- Suzanne S. Barnhill Microsoft MVP (Word) Words into Type Fairhope, Alabama USA http://word.mvps.org "MaryL" <stancole1(a)yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message news:ePTfQ7NlKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >I want to change the bottom margin so I can eliminate the last page of a >document that contains just a few lines of text. This should be a very >simple procedure, but I have been completely unsuccessful after several >attempts. I am using Office 2007 (Compatibility Mode) and Vista Home >Premium. If I go to Page Layout>Margins>Custom Margins, and change the >bottom to .75" instead of the default 1" (then click on "OK"), the entire >document remains exactly the same. There are no changes in page breaks, >lines on a page, etc. > > Can someone explain what is going on and how I can produce this simple > change? In WordPerfect, I can view the margin guidelines and simply > "grab" them to move. However, I cannot locate a similar feature in Word. > > Thanks, > MaryL >
From: MaryL on 14 Jan 2010 08:33
Correction to my information: I did locate margin settings on the rulers, although I could find a way to see guidelines for the document. Changing the settings on ruler also did not make any changes to the document. I tried changing the L/R margins as an experiment, and even that just reverted back to the original--no actual changes to the document. MaryL "MaryL" <stancole1(a)yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message news:OxSGozRlKHA.5820(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Thanks. I have had a great deal of difficulty trying to find some basics > for Word in either the help files or the manuals I have. For example, I > have done a lot of searching and cannot find the setting for widow and > orphan. That was one of the potential problems I thought of, but the > knowledge base directed me to settings that I do not even find in my > version. Likewise, I haven't found any way to drag the margin settings > because the guidelines do not show up on my computer. The references I > have found direct me to tabs that I do not even find on my version. For > example, one reference directs me to "Format." I cannot find a Format > tab. Then I was supposed to select "Normal." Again, where is it? The > help files do not seem to have an alphabetical search feature such as what > I have in other programs. Instead, there are very general topics, and I > have not found what I need after selecting many of those topics. > > Can you give me some information on how to find and set (or unset) widows > and orphans and also how to view guidelines for margins so I could click > and drag them? I am aware that even a slight change in the left or right > margins will often make a change, but I should also be able to do the same > thing by changing the bottom margin. That is what does not seem to work > for me, and I have not been able to check widow and orphan because I > haven't found the location. > > Thanks, > MaryL > > "Tony Jollans" <My forename at my surname dot com> wrote in message > news:etOsgxPlKHA.2188(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> You can also click and drag margins in Word. >> >> Small changes to margins do not necessarily cause text to move; there are >> other factors that come into play - widow/orphan control for example. >> Without more information it is impossible to say what may have happened >> in your case, but some experimentation may be needed - for example, >> moving the right margin just enough to squeeze an extra word on the right >> line can sometimes have a dramatc effect. >> >> -- >> Enjoy, >> Tony >> >> www.WordArticles.com >> >> "MaryL" <stancole1(a)yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote in message >> news:ePTfQ7NlKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>I want to change the bottom margin so I can eliminate the last page of a >>>document that contains just a few lines of text. This should be a very >>>simple procedure, but I have been completely unsuccessful after several >>>attempts. I am using Office 2007 (Compatibility Mode) and Vista Home >>>Premium. If I go to Page Layout>Margins>Custom Margins, and change the >>>bottom to .75" instead of the default 1" (then click on "OK"), the entire >>>document remains exactly the same. There are no changes in page breaks, >>>lines on a page, etc. >>> >>> Can someone explain what is going on and how I can produce this simple >>> change? In WordPerfect, I can view the margin guidelines and simply >>> "grab" them to move. However, I cannot locate a similar feature in >>> Word. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> MaryL >> > |