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From: Michael Feldbau on 19 Dec 2009 15:08 Hello, I am working with OE back from Ver.4. I have now OE V6 SP2. My OS is XP Pro SP2 I receive digitally signed messages on daily basis. In the Inbox folder it displays the red signature button. However when I open the messages it doesn't indicate that the message is signed. This began only recently (I suspect after I upgraded to IE 7). Beforehand, for many years it did indicate the red signature icon on open messages. Hence, I cannot perform signature verification at this point. Could anybody advise? Gratefuly, Michael __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4702 (20091219) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 19 Dec 2009 18:37 1. Please post to this newsgroup in Plain Text, Michael, otherwise your right-to-left default makes it almost impossible to read your messages. Thanks. 2. Why isn't WinXP SP3 installed yet? Computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical security updates, Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows Update website will not be available after 10 July 2010 until SP3 is installed. 3a. Make sure your time, date, and time-zone settings are all correct. 3b. Open Internet Explorer (only) to http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan | Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB976325). If a Root Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software Updates category on the left, install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. NB: Do NOT install SP3 or IE8! Hide both/either of them ("Don't show me this update again") for now if necessary, please. Does the behavior persist now? OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Add senders'certificates to my Address Book: Is this option checked/enabled and does your correspondents' entries in Address Book include their Digital IDs? OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Revocation Checking: Which option is checked/enabled here? -- ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 www.banthecheck.com Michael Feldbau wrote: > I am working with OE back from Ver.4. > I have now OE V6 SP2. My OS is XP Pro SP2 > I receive digitally signed messages on daily basis. In the Inbox folder it > displays the red signature button. However when I open the messages it > doesn't indicate that the message is signed. > This began only recently (I suspect after I upgraded to IE 7). Beforehand, > for many years it did indicate the red signature icon on open messages. > > Hence, I cannot perform signature verification at this point. > > Could anybody advise? > > Gratefuly, > Michael > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 4702 (20091219) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
From: Michael Feldbau on 20 Dec 2009 11:19 Thanks Robert for the detalied response. One small question just to avoid confusion: on one hand you urge me to install WIN XP SP3, but later you asked NOT to install SP3. Could you explain please...? I haven't installed IE8 nor SP3. The answer to all your question is YES. The problem persists. Strangely this happens on another computer of mine too. Some tech info might help: 1. The received message consists header part and one p7m attachment (signed message). I know that beause an application of mine generates these messages. 2. Previously OE treated the attachment as a secured message, and when performing File|Properties|Details - it provided a button "secure message source". If at this point you perform File|Save As (eml), the secure message is saved. Now this option is unavailable. OE automatically decrypts the secure message, identifies the message in the Inbox folder as a signed message, but when the message is opened, there's no indication of digital signature. Moreover, if you perform File|Save As (eml) - then the decrypted unsigned message is saved, as though the message was never signed. Thanks again, Michael "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:OirHsSQgKHA.1112(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > 1. Please post to this newsgroup in Plain Text, Michael, otherwise your > right-to-left default makes it almost impossible to read your messages. > Thanks. > > 2. Why isn't WinXP SP3 installed yet? > > Computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical > security updates, Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows > Update website will not be available after 10 July 2010 until SP3 is > installed. > > 3a. Make sure your time, date, and time-zone settings are all correct. > > 3b. Open Internet Explorer (only) to > http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan | > Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB976325). If a Root > Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software Updates category on > the left, install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. > > NB: Do NOT install SP3 or IE8! Hide both/either of them ("Don't show me > this update again") for now if necessary, please. > > Does the behavior persist now? > > OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Add > senders'certificates to my Address Book: Is this option checked/enabled > and does your correspondents' entries in Address Book include their > Digital IDs? > > OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Revocation > Checking: Which option is checked/enabled here? > > -- > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) > MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 > www.banthecheck.com > > Michael Feldbau wrote: >> I am working with OE back from Ver.4. >> I have now OE V6 SP2. My OS is XP Pro SP2 >> I receive digitally signed messages on daily basis. In the Inbox folder >> it >> displays the red signature button. However when I open the messages it >> doesn't indicate that the message is signed. >> This began only recently (I suspect after I upgraded to IE 7). >> Beforehand, >> for many years it did indicate the red signature icon on open messages. >> >> Hence, I cannot perform signature verification at this point. >> >> Could anybody advise? >> >> Gratefuly, >> Michael >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >> database 4702 (20091219) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4702 (20091219) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4703 (20091220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 20 Dec 2009 13:10 > One small question just to avoid confusion: on one hand you > urge me to install WIN XP SP3, but later you asked NOT to install SP3. > Could you explain please...? 1. I wanted to see if installing the most recent Root Certificates update might resolve the behavior. In Vista and Win7, Root Certificates updates are installed automatically via Automatic Updates but WinXP users must check for & install them manually. (Root Certificates updates are generally released every 3 months or so. The most recent update became available c. 24 Nov-09.) 2. I don't recommend installing Service Packs or IE upgrades via Windows Update/Automatic Updates. Michael Feldbau wrote: > Thanks Robert for the detalied response. > One small question just to avoid confusion: on one hand you > urge me to install WIN XP SP3, but later you asked NOT to install SP3. > Could you explain please...? > > I haven't installed IE8 nor SP3. > The answer to all your question is YES. > The problem persists. > > Strangely this happens on another computer of mine too. > Some tech info might help: > > 1. The received message consists header part and one p7m attachment > (signed > message). I know that beause an application of mine generates these > messages. > > 2. Previously OE treated the attachment as a secured message, and when > performing File|Properties|Details - it provided a button "secure message > source". If at this point you perform File|Save As (eml), the secure > message > is saved. > Now this option is unavailable. OE automatically decrypts the secure > message, identifies the message in the Inbox folder as a signed message, > but > when the message is opened, there's no indication of digital signature. > Moreover, if you perform File|Save As (eml) - then the decrypted unsigned > message is saved, as though the message was never signed. > > > > Thanks again, > Michael > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:OirHsSQgKHA.1112(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> 1. Please post to this newsgroup in Plain Text, Michael, otherwise your >> right-to-left default makes it almost impossible to read your messages. >> Thanks. >> >> 2. Why isn't WinXP SP3 installed yet? >> >> Computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical >> security updates, Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows >> Update website will not be available after 10 July 2010 until SP3 is >> installed. >> >> 3a. Make sure your time, date, and time-zone settings are all correct. >> >> 3b. Open Internet Explorer (only) to >> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan | >> Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB976325). If a >> Root >> Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software Updates category >> on >> the left, install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. >> >> NB: Do NOT install SP3 or IE8! Hide both/either of them ("Don't show me >> this update again") for now if necessary, please. >> >> Does the behavior persist now? >> >> OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Add >> senders'certificates to my Address Book: Is this option checked/enabled >> and does your correspondents' entries in Address Book include their >> Digital IDs? >> >> OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Revocation >> Checking: Which option is checked/enabled here? >> >> -- >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >> www.banthecheck.com >> >> Michael Feldbau wrote: >>> I am working with OE back from Ver.4. >>> I have now OE V6 SP2. My OS is XP Pro SP2 >>> I receive digitally signed messages on daily basis. In the Inbox folder >>> it >>> displays the red signature button. However when I open the messages it >>> doesn't indicate that the message is signed. >>> This began only recently (I suspect after I upgraded to IE 7). >>> Beforehand, >>> for many years it did indicate the red signature icon on open messages. >>> >>> Hence, I cannot perform signature verification at this point. >>> >>> Could anybody advise? >>> >>> Gratefuly, >>> Michael >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature >>> database 4702 (20091219) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4702 (20091219) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4703 (20091220) __________ > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com
From: Michael Feldbau on 21 Dec 2009 00:19
Thanks Robert. Nothing helped at this stage. The problem occures also on another computer of mine. Anything more that I can do? Regards, Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:u6ylMBagKHA.1540(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> One small question just to avoid confusion: on one hand you >> urge me to install WIN XP SP3, but later you asked NOT to install SP3. >> Could you explain please...? > > 1. I wanted to see if installing the most recent Root Certificates update > might resolve the behavior. In Vista and Win7, Root Certificates updates > are installed automatically via Automatic Updates but WinXP users must > check for & install them manually. (Root Certificates updates are > generally released every 3 months or so. The most recent update became > available c. 24 Nov-09.) > > 2. I don't recommend installing Service Packs or IE upgrades via Windows > Update/Automatic Updates. > > > Michael Feldbau wrote: >> Thanks Robert for the detalied response. >> One small question just to avoid confusion: on one hand you >> urge me to install WIN XP SP3, but later you asked NOT to install SP3. >> Could you explain please...? >> >> I haven't installed IE8 nor SP3. >> The answer to all your question is YES. >> The problem persists. >> >> Strangely this happens on another computer of mine too. >> Some tech info might help: >> >> 1. The received message consists header part and one p7m attachment >> (signed >> message). I know that beause an application of mine generates these >> messages. >> >> 2. Previously OE treated the attachment as a secured message, and when >> performing File|Properties|Details - it provided a button "secure message >> source". If at this point you perform File|Save As (eml), the secure >> message >> is saved. >> Now this option is unavailable. OE automatically decrypts the secure >> message, identifies the message in the Inbox folder as a signed message, >> but >> when the message is opened, there's no indication of digital signature. >> Moreover, if you perform File|Save As (eml) - then the decrypted unsigned >> message is saved, as though the message was never signed. >> >> >> >> Thanks again, >> Michael >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:OirHsSQgKHA.1112(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> 1. Please post to this newsgroup in Plain Text, Michael, otherwise your >>> right-to-left default makes it almost impossible to read your messages. >>> Thanks. >>> >>> 2. Why isn't WinXP SP3 installed yet? >>> >>> Computers running WinXP SP2 will NOT be offered any further critical >>> security updates, Automatic Updates will cease to function, and Windows >>> Update website will not be available after 10 July 2010 until SP3 is >>> installed. >>> >>> 3a. Make sure your time, date, and time-zone settings are all correct. >>> >>> 3b. Open Internet Explorer (only) to >>> http://update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate | Select CUSTOM and scan | >>> Install any Critical Security Updates offered (e.g., KB976325). If a >>> Root >>> Certificates update is listed in the Optional Software Updates category >>> on >>> the left, install it to take full advantage of IE's enhanced security. >>> >>> NB: Do NOT install SP3 or IE8! Hide both/either of them ("Don't show me >>> this update again") for now if necessary, please. >>> >>> Does the behavior persist now? >>> >>> OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Add >>> senders'certificates to my Address Book: Is this option checked/enabled >>> and does your correspondents' entries in Address Book include their >>> Digital IDs? >>> >>> OE Tools | Options | Security | Secure Mail | Advanced | Revocation >>> Checking: Which option is checked/enabled here? >>> >>> -- >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) >>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002 >>> www.banthecheck.com >>> >>> Michael Feldbau wrote: >>>> I am working with OE back from Ver.4. >>>> I have now OE V6 SP2. My OS is XP Pro SP2 >>>> I receive digitally signed messages on daily basis. In the Inbox folder >>>> it >>>> displays the red signature button. However when I open the messages it >>>> doesn't indicate that the message is signed. >>>> This began only recently (I suspect after I upgraded to IE 7). >>>> Beforehand, >>>> for many years it did indicate the red signature icon on open messages. >>>> >>>> Hence, I cannot perform signature verification at this point. >>>> >>>> Could anybody advise? >>>> >>>> Gratefuly, >>>> Michael >>>> >>>> >>>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>> signature >>>> database 4702 (20091219) __________ >>>> >>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>>> >>>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>> signature database 4702 (20091219) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature database 4703 (20091220) __________ >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4704 (20091220) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4704 (20091220) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com |