Does anyone create sites without using tables for layout?
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From: Hillbilly on 10 Jan 2010 14:34 To make pages look as little like web pages created using HTML/CSS/JavaScript we use Flash or Silverlight both of which have a steep learning curve which is much steeper than HTML "web forms" development. "mat" <mat(a)notarealdotcom.adr> wrote in message news:MPG.25b325cf2c99c7669897af(a)msnews.microsoft.com... > That is interesting; thank you. No I am not an asp.net dev yet...I've > not needed to so far, but the time is coming. I have been able to build > apps using winforms etc to date and have been able to avoid writing > directly to a browser (do use various cms). I would really like to get > any input you have to offer re how to make asp.net as sleek looking (ie > as little like old html pages/forms) as possible, with the minimun > effort. YUI CSS and Blueprint, are they what you use? I've no exposure > to either. > > In article <OOWnDZakKHA.5608(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl>, nobody(a)nowhere.com > says... >> Most of us try but I think our dirty little secret is most also cop out >> and >> start using tables here and there when their pages become increasingly >> complex. You'll note most of the "pure" CSS sites are often little more >> than >> what we call StackPanels in XAML using CSS to declare perhaps 2 or 3 at >> most >> container type implementations expressed as styled HTML. >> >> Are you using any of the libaries yet like YUI CSS or Blueprint? >> >> >> >> "mat" <mat(a)notarealdotcom.adr> wrote in message >> news:MPG.25b2e2e1c2dee2c29897ac(a)msnews.microsoft.com... >> >I know that a trend is to create websites that are pure css, and don't >> > rely on tables for layout. Are asp.net devs taking that approach also? >> > I >> > checked a couple of major asp.net websites like newegg.com and they do >> > seem to use tables for layout. >> > >> > Any info out there focused on table-less asp.net dev? >> >>
From: mat on 10 Jan 2010 18:03 In article <e$yEbvikKHA.4356(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, nobody(a)nowhere.com says... > To make pages look as little like web pages created using > HTML/CSS/JavaScript we use Flash or Silverlight both of which have a steep > learning curve which is much steeper than HTML "web forms" development. > That's interesting too...flex 4 and the silverlight kit that comes with vs2010 have been getting much more attention than asp.net over here too. We just do have to get some chops at general web dev and asp.net is probably the simplest tool to pick up. Flex 4 and SL + RIA Services are still not quite ready, so it's a good time to learn some asp.net. When I searched for blueprint, I was not sure if I found the exact framework you referenced in your original reply. Can you give me a url? Thanks.
From: James Irvine on 13 Jan 2010 14:31 "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark(a)markNOSPAMrae.net> wrote in message news:OsT65MfkKHA.2164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "James Irvine" <jirv332(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:xYf2n.3584$5m.1397(a)newsfe12.iad... > >> Here's a site I did for a friend with a home page that just happens to be >> table-free: http://www.barbarareed.org/ And it dynamically adjusts its >> width to fill the browser. > > But not its height... Even on a 24" monitor I had to scroll to see the > bottom menu / copyright notice... > > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net thanks -I hadn't even noticed : ) Calling a javascript function from the Master page code-behind, to dynamically adjust the <div> height seems to do the trick: protected void Page_Load(object sender, EventArgs e) { // Get a ClientScriptManager reference from the Page class. ClientScriptManager cs = Page.ClientScript; if (!IsPostBack) // first pass: { switch (Convert.ToString(this.Page)) { case "ASP.default_aspx": LinkButton3.Visible = false; cs.RegisterStartupScript (GetType(), "Javascript", "javascript: fnSetLeftColumn(550); ", true); break; case "ASP.books_aspx": LinkButton4.Visible = false; cs.RegisterStartupScript (GetType(), "Javascript", "javascript: fnSetLeftColumn(1550); ", true); break; case "ASP.booksf_aspx": LinkButton4.Visible = false; cs.RegisterStartupScript (GetType(), "Javascript", "javascript: fnSetLeftColumn(1550); ", true); break; etc....
From: Hillbilly on 22 Jan 2010 11:12 Its Google's response http://code.google.com/p/blueprintcss/ Personally, I have favored Yahoo YUI CSS but it is more difficult to learn as it is very succinct and terse which is why some have adopted lighter frameworks such as the 960 CSS Framework which is faster and easier to use for sites that you know will not need every possible layout such as YUI will support. "mat" <mat(a)notarealdotcom.adr> wrote in message news:MPG.25b3fca728a5da8f9897b3(a)msnews.microsoft.com... > In article <e$yEbvikKHA.4356(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, nobody(a)nowhere.com > says... >> To make pages look as little like web pages created using >> HTML/CSS/JavaScript we use Flash or Silverlight both of which have a >> steep >> learning curve which is much steeper than HTML "web forms" development. >> > That's interesting too...flex 4 and the silverlight kit that comes with > vs2010 have been getting much more attention than asp.net over here too. > We just do have to get some chops at general web dev and asp.net is > probably the simplest tool to pick up. Flex 4 and SL + RIA Services are > still not quite ready, so it's a good time to learn some asp.net. > > When I searched for blueprint, I was not sure if I found the exact > framework you referenced in your original reply. Can you give me a url? > Thanks.
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