From: ajay on
On Oct 9, 9:49 am, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:43 pm, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > YOU ARE WRONG. Among other things, you claim to observe the law of
> > conservation of momentum, but then you claim that the recoil of an
> > atom that emits a photon is very small.
>
> Precisely. The same thing that was shown here:
>
> http://www.conceptsofphysics.net/V_3/549.pdf

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From: ajay on
On Oct 9, 10:04 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)mchsi.com> wrote:
> Dono. wrote:
> > On Oct 8, 7:43 pm, Robert Higgins <robert_higgins...(a)hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> YOU ARE WRONG. Among other things, you claim to observe the law of
> >> conservation of momentum, but then you claim that the recoil of an
> >> atom that emits a photon is very small.
>
> > Precisely. The same thing that was shown here:
>
> >http://www.conceptsofphysics.net/V_3/549.pdf
>
>    <smiling>

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Addressed to DONO

Einstein's Sep 1905 derivation
A. Einstein, Annalen. der Physik 17, 891-921 (1905).

http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/

is also meant for body of any mass.

Ajay Sharma www.AjayOnLine.us

From: Inertial on

"ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:936ff3d9-9b38-4967-b97c-7924622d79da(a)f16g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 9, 8:09 am, bz <bz+...(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:
>> On 06 Oct 2009, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote news:00554f5a$0
>> $26943$c3e8...(a)news.astraweb.com in sci.physics.relativity:
>>
>> Most of my comments are addressed to AJAY, rather than Inertial.
>>
>> >> Dr Drake and devised two equations hf* = Mc2 + hf/A and
>> >> hf* =Mc2 + hf
>> >> where h is Planck's constant , f* and f are frequencies , M is mass
>> >> of hydrogen
>> >> atom in ground state , c is speed of light. Then Dr Drake has
>> >> subtracted equations as
>>
>> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1)
>> >> hf* =Mc2 + hf (2)
>> >> ---------------------------
>> >> Difference = hf/A - hf = hf (1/A-1)
>>
>> He SHOULD have written this as
>>
>> DELTA hf* = hf (1/A-1)
>> Where DELTA indicates 'change in', and is commonly so used in calculus.
>>
>> Your failure to understand this indicates the fact that you failed to
>> understand that
>> hf* sub 1 =/= hf* sub 2, so DELTA hf* is NOT zero.
>>
>> the hf* in equation (1) is NOT equal to the hf* in equation (2).
>>
>> Your failure to understand this is made clear when you said:
>>
>>
>>
>> >> Correct version is
>> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A
>> >> hf* = Mc2 + hf
>> >> ---------------------------
>> >> 0 = hf/A - hf = hf (1/A-1) or A =1 (4)
>>
>> You should study the importance of finite differences. They are
>> fundamental
>> to taking derivatives in
>> calculus.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_difference.
>>
>> In Drake's case, the difference is NOT a small difference, as one would
>> find in calculus, it is the difference between different energy states.
>>
>> One comment to Inertial: going ballistic and using terms that would not
>> be
>> used in polite society is rude (remember your grandchildren may someday
>> read what you post now, or a prospective boss may read them) and does
>> nothing to improve your credibility. I applaud your attempts to educate
>> but
>> deplore some of the things you have said in some of your articles. There
>> is
>> no excuse for some of the things that some people say here.
>>
>> --
>> bz
>>
>> please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is
>> an
>> infinite set.
>
> -------
> ------
> Addressed to BZ
>
> You gave written
> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1)
> hf* =Mc2 + hf (2)

Of course, what Drake said was (as a formula)

hf* =Mc2 + hf + Energy Difference (2)

I didnt' see in any of Drakes correspondence that you presented in that PDF
where he gave a particular formula. Only your interpretation of what he
said

And that for energy difference to be zero, A must be 1. So your claim that
A can be other than 1 is wrong.

Your theory therefore would break laws of physics

Get a new hobby.


From: Inertial on

"ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Oct 8, 1:30 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "ajay" <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fc4432d8-8213-41ac-8a5f-c3b23e987b75(a)b18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Oct 8, 7:38 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> "ajay" <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:1a6b5bb8-0f2a-434a-ab5d-f0fbc41a117b(a)r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Oct 7, 10:23 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> >> On Oct 7, 8:32 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > > Listen, wackjob. A=1, so all of your "papers" contain the same
>> >> >> > > mistake.
>> >> >> > > Drake showed you that A=1, I showed you that A=1 through a
>> >> >> > > different
>> >> >> > > way.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > > - Show quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> > i) THE MAIN THEME HERE IS , Dr Gordon W.F. Drake has done 8th
>> >> >> > class
>> >> >> > math wrong.
>>
>> >> >> Listen, wackjob, dr. Drake has shown you that A=1. I have shown you
>> >> >> through a different method that A=1.
>> >> >> Einstein is right, all your papers are wrong.
>>
>> >> > ---------
>> >> > DONO
>>
>> >> > See that I pasted HOW Dr Drake simply did 8th class math wrong in
>> >> > previous post.
>> >> > comment on it.
>>
>> >> His math is fine. You just can't understand 8th class math.- Hide
>> >> quoted
>> >> text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> > -----
>> > INERTIAL
>>
>> > See my previous post.
>>
>> I've seen enough of them
>>
>> > Dr Drake has done 8th class math wrong.
>>
>> No .. you just haven't understood it .. big difference
>>
>> > Dr Gordon W.F. Drake: p...(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000 to clarify
>>
>> I have no need to talk to him, the correspondence from him to you was
>> very
>> clear
>>
>> > AJAY SHARMA www.AjayOnLine.us
>>
>> You should choose a new career .. Physics and writing are not for you.-
>> Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> ---------
> INERTIAL
>
> There is established rule in schools to teach students the subtraction
> of algebraic equations.
> (i) LHS is subtracted from LHS
> (ii) RHS is subtracted from RHS
>
> Dr Gordon W.F. Drake, Editor Physical Review, American Physical
> Society, New York
> Has not followed this rule.
> Now he is silent it will never prove him correct.

I have shown you you error already

The formula you wrote down as your interpretation of what Drake said in his
letter (from your 40-odd-page pdf record of your correspondence) is
incorrect.

The problem is yours, not his.

Your continual whinging about it just makes you look more foolish.



From: Inertial on

"ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:d4de4db9-a374-4bd2-ba2e-7ad19726e9c0(a)j39g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Dr Gordon W.F. Drake, Editor Physical Review, American Physical
> Society , New Yok: pra(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000,
> Should explain why he did 8th class math wrong.

He didn't. You didn't write the correct equatinos.