From: ajay on
On Oct 6, 7:01 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 6:52 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > MISTAKE OF Dr DRAKE
>
> > Dr Drake and devised two equations       hf* = Mc2 + hf/A   and
> > hf* =Mc2 + hf
> > where  h is Planck's constant , f*  and f are frequencies , M is mass
> > of hydrogen
> >  atom in ground state , c is speed of light.   Then Dr Drake has
> > subtracted equations as
>
> >       hf* = Mc2 + hf/A       (1)
> >       hf* =Mc2 + hf            (2)
> >      ---------------------------
> > Difference = hf/A – hf = hf (1/A-1)
>
> Drake is telling you something very simple:
>
> E^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2   (1)
>
> According to experimen, E=Mc^2. According to you: E=A*(Mc^2). So:
>
> (Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2     (2)
>
> (A*Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2   (3)
> -------------------------------------
>
> (A-1)^2*(Mc^2)^2=0                (4)
>
> so A=1.
>
> End of story.

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(i) Don’t raise the false issues. The equations you have given are
irrelevant. A=1 from right subtraction based upon 8th class math.
Come to real issues, the set of equations devised and interpreted by
Dr Drake.

Dr Drake has perceived CYCLIC PROCESS and tried to give false
contradiction, with value of A>1 in eq.(3).

Dr Drake has written and discussed, eqs.(1-2) , subtracted incorrectly
as eq.(3) and interpreted it in letter dated 19 June 2008.
The correct subtraction is eq.(4).

Read and understand previous post

MISTAKE OF Dr DRAKE

Dr Drake and devised two equations hf* = Mc2 + hf/A and
hf* =Mc2 + hf
where h is Planck's constant , f* and f are frequencies , M is mass
of hydrogen
atom in ground state , c is speed of light. Then Dr Drake has
subtracted equations as

hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1)
hf* =Mc2 + hf (2)
---------------------------
Difference = hf/A – hf = hf (1/A-1)
(3)
and interpreted it for A> 1 and thus contradicted my work in his
designed conception. Then he generalized his 'research' in other cases
as well.
WRONG, 8th class subtraction by Editor Dr W.F. Drake as in eq.(3).

Dr Drake has forgotten the basic definition of equation that it has
LHS and RHS. Further basic rule which is taught to 8th class student
is while subtraction is that LHS of one equation is subtracted from
LHS from second equation. RHS of one equation is subtracted from the
RHS of second equation.

Mistake of Dr Drake: Dr Drake did not subtract LHS of eq.(1) i.e.
from LHS of eq.(2), which is absolutely wrong. It is reflected from eq.
(3) , as in LHS he writes 'DIFFERENCE'.

Correct version is
hf* = Mc2 + hf/A
hf* = Mc2 + hf
---------------------------
0 = hf/A – hf = hf (1/A-1) or A =1 (4)
LHS is subtracted from LHS, (hf* - hf* = 0) and RHS is subtracted from
RHS (hf/A – hf).
As the Left Hand Sides of both the equations are equal, hence the
difference is zero.
Thus Dr Drake applied 8th class mathematics incorrectly.
This is mistake of Dr Drake.

Dr Gordon W.F. Drake: pra(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000,
Should explain why he did 8th class math wrong.
Ajay Sharma www.AjayOnLine.us


From: ajay on
On Oct 6, 7:01 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 6:52 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > MISTAKE OF Dr DRAKE
>
> > Dr Drake and devised two equations       hf* = Mc2 + hf/A   and
> > hf* =Mc2 + hf
> > where  h is Planck's constant , f*  and f are frequencies , M is mass
> > of hydrogen
> >  atom in ground state , c is speed of light.   Then Dr Drake has
> > subtracted equations as
>
> >       hf* = Mc2 + hf/A       (1)
> >       hf* =Mc2 + hf            (2)
> >      ---------------------------
> > Difference = hf/A – hf = hf (1/A-1)
>
> Drake is telling you something very simple:
>
> E^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2   (1)
>
> According to experimen, E=Mc^2. According to you: E=A*(Mc^2). So:
>
> (Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2     (2)
>
> (A*Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2   (3)
> -------------------------------------
>
> (A-1)^2*(Mc^2)^2=0                (4)
>
> so A=1.
>
> End of story.

From: Inertial on

"ajay" <ajayonline.us(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:532b23c6-4ca8-473c-b9ba-c940754f36d8(a)b18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 6, 7:01 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Oct 6, 6:52 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > MISTAKE OF Dr DRAKE
>>
>> > Dr Drake and devised two equations hf* = Mc2 + hf/A and
>> > hf* =Mc2 + hf
>> > where h is Planck's constant , f* and f are frequencies , M is mass
>> > of hydrogen
>> > atom in ground state , c is speed of light. Then Dr Drake has
>> > subtracted equations as
>>
>> > hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1)
>> > hf* =Mc2 + hf (2)
>> > ---------------------------
>> > Difference = hf/A � hf = hf (1/A-1)
>>
>> Drake is telling you something very simple:
>>
>> E^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2 (1)
>>
>> According to experimen, E=Mc^2. According to you: E=A*(Mc^2). So:
>>
>> (Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2 (2)
>>
>> (A*Mc^2)^2-(p*c)^2=(m_0*c^2)^2 (3)
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>> (A-1)^2*(Mc^2)^2=0 (4)
>>
>> so A=1.
>>
>> End of story.
>
> --------
> (i) Don�t raise the false issues. The equations you have given are
> irrelevant. A=1 from right subtraction based upon 8th class math.
> Come to real issues, the set of equations devised and interpreted by
> Dr Drake.
>
> Dr Drake has perceived CYCLIC PROCESS and tried to give false
> contradiction, with value of A>1 in eq.(3).
>
> Dr Drake has written and discussed, eqs.(1-2) , subtracted incorrectly
> as eq.(3) and interpreted it in letter dated 19 June 2008.
> The correct subtraction is eq.(4).
>
> Read and understand previous post
>
> MISTAKE OF Dr DRAKE
>
> Dr Drake and devised two equations hf* = Mc2 + hf/A and
> hf* =Mc2 + hf
> where h is Planck's constant , f* and f are frequencies , M is mass
> of hydrogen
> atom in ground state , c is speed of light. Then Dr Drake has
> subtracted equations as
>
> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A (1)
> hf* =Mc2 + hf (2)
> ---------------------------
> Difference = hf/A � hf = hf (1/A-1)
> (3)
> and interpreted it for A> 1 and thus contradicted my work in his
> designed conception. Then he generalized his 'research' in other cases
> as well.
> WRONG, 8th class subtraction by Editor Dr W.F. Drake as in eq.(3).
>
> Dr Drake has forgotten the basic definition of equation that it has
> LHS and RHS. Further basic rule which is taught to 8th class student
> is while subtraction is that LHS of one equation is subtracted from
> LHS from second equation. RHS of one equation is subtracted from the
> RHS of second equation.
>
> Mistake of Dr Drake: Dr Drake did not subtract LHS of eq.(1) i.e.
> from LHS of eq.(2), which is absolutely wrong. It is reflected from eq.
> (3) , as in LHS he writes 'DIFFERENCE'.
>
> Correct version is
> hf* = Mc2 + hf/A
> hf* = Mc2 + hf
> ---------------------------
> 0 = hf/A � hf = hf (1/A-1) or A =1 (4)
> LHS is subtracted from LHS, (hf* - hf* = 0) and RHS is subtracted from
> RHS (hf/A � hf).
> As the Left Hand Sides of both the equations are equal, hence the
> difference is zero.
> Thus Dr Drake applied 8th class mathematics incorrectly.
> This is mistake of Dr Drake.
>
> Dr Gordon W.F. Drake: pra(a)aps.org, 001-631-591-4000,
> Should explain why he did 8th class math wrong.
> Ajay Sharma www.AjayOnLine.us

I'm still waiting for you to show exactly what Dr Drake wrote, and not your
interpretation of it.

Even you *own* 'correct' interpretation shows A=1, which appears to refutes
your claims.

I imagine that that is what Dr Drake was pointing out. That if you have A
<> 1, then you end up with nonsense.

I asked before, and will ask again .. see if you can manage this simple
copy/paste task

Write "This is what my article contained:"

And follow that with exactly what it is your article said (the maths in
particular)

Then write "This is what Dr Drake said about it:"

And follow that with exactly what he said about your article (the maths in
particular)

No interpretation or paraphrasing, just what you wrote and what he
commented.

And then see if people agree with his review.


From: Dono. on
On Oct 6, 8:10 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > (i) Don’t raise the false issues. The equations you have given are
> irrelevant. A=1 from right subtraction based upon 8th class math.


Don't be such an idiot, the equation is the conservation of energy/
momentum.

From: ajay on
On Oct 7, 3:59 am, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> On Oct 6, 8:10 am, ajay <ajayonline...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > (i) Don’t raise the false issues. The equations you have given are
> > irrelevant. A=1 from right subtraction based upon 8th class math.
>
> Don't be such an idiot, the equation is the conservation of energy/
> momentum.

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You hace written discuss HOW Dr Drake did 8th class math wrong . I did
giving all equations.
Comment on those what Dr Drake did and perceived.

AJAY SHARMA www.AjayOnLine.us