From: TaurArian on
You might be better off posting these days to:

http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/categories

You may or may not need Framework -
Benefits of the Microsoft .NET Framework
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/829019

Usually if a program requries it, it'll ask for it.

You were probably not offered any Framework updates because you no longer
had Framework installed and Framework is an optional update.
It would only be listed if you had Framework installed and then there were
critcal updates for that.

K



"Derf McKensy" <DerfMcKensy(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2FA15AEC-6B32-4CD8-80EE-82F78EE29055(a)microsoft.com...
> I, too, have recently encountered two .NET Framework Critical Updates that
> fail to instal correctly.
>
> I tried to start a new question but couldn't get that window to open so I
> thought this might be a good spot since my problems are similar in nature
> and
> I already read and followed your previous advice to the original poster
> and
> it was very helpful.
>
> The two updates are KB974417 and KB951847. They have repeatedly failed
> over
> the past month. Through a support link on the Update site, I was able to
> get
> few a few emails with Update Support before they turned me over to MS
> engineering support. From there, they had me do pretty much the same
> thing
> as was described in your links. I used a cleanup tool to completely
> remove
> all versions of .NET software from this machine and then re-install each
> one
> in the proper order. That worked all the way up until I got to the two
> updates in question and I experienced the very same failure to install.
>
> MS engineering Support gave me the wave-off telling me that I didn't need
> those updates and even though I could attempt to hide them, I would be
> faced
> with the warnings that I have hidden critcal updates from that point on.
> Not
> a happy solution in my opinion.
>
> So I decided to try again and follow the steps outlined in your links as
> closely as possible. I first tried using the Add/Remove Panel to remnove
> the
> .NET software as was described to be the "prefered" method. That removed
> a
> couple versions but two components failed to remove that way. So I used
> the
> latest version of the cleanup tool that I could find and it removed all
> the
> .NET software. Then, I tried that "Windows Install Cleanup Tool" that one
> of
> your links suggested but I couldn't find any remaining .NET software to
> point
> it to so I just exited that.
>
> I did the reboot and I was about to start installing all the .NET stuff
> starting with "1.0" and working my way up in order like I did before.
> This
> time I was very careful when I downloaded all the .NET things, renaming
> them
> as "dotnet1a.exe and dotnet1b.exe and then dotnet2a.exe" and so on. But I
> forgot to save your post in this newsgroup as a favorite and I wanted to
> read
> it again so I attempted to retrace my steps to find it and that entailed
> going through the windows update site. Well, low and behold, when I went
> to
> Windows Update, it said I didn't need ANY Critiacal Updates. No warnings,
> no
> nothing!
>
> So, now, my question, why do I have to install ANY of the .NET Framework
> structure?
>
> I know the only way you might be able to answer that is to know a bit more
> about my system. And I apoligize up front for being so wordy but I don't
> know
> how else to get help without a ton of cross-communication. So, I'll start
> with my specs and then what I use it for.
>
> Genuine Intel D875BZLK w/800 MHz bus speed
> OB gigabit LAN & native SATA 150 support
> 4) 512MB sticks of Corsair Extreme 2.5 CAS RAM
> 3.2E Prescott Family 15 Model 3 Stepping 3
> with Hyper-Threading running at 3192 Mhz.
> (2) Hitachi Deskstar 80/8/7500 SATA drives
> running in a RAID-0 array
> SoundBlaster Audigy-2 ZS Gamer edition
> 8x AGP Asus V9570 FX5700 128 MB video
> DH20A4P optical DVD burner
> Win XP Pro SP3 w/IE 7 & Visual Studio 6.0
>
> I built this machine for the sole intent to be able to take all my old VHS
> tapes and transfer them to DVDs. I wanted a machine that colud process
> video
> faster than it could play and this thing does it quite well. I don't like
> Windows deciding to download and install updates in the midst of my
> burning a
> DVD so I prefer to use the Windows Update site manually once a week. I
> also
> dabble in a little software creation with Visual Studio because I learned
> BASIC and QuickBasic when they came out and I've always liked that sort of
> thing. But I don't do anything commercially and apart from web surfing
> and
> email, I use this for my banking and other persoanl stuff including my own
> website which you can see here. > http://drmcwheels.com <
>
> I have no idea what the .NET Framework structure does for me as I
> understand
> its importance for developers is its primary reason for existing. So what
> problems may I experience if I don't load ANY of the .NET updates? I
> still
> attempt to maintain a pretty tight security through a router and then the
> AVG
> Internet Security suite and Firewall plus I use SpybotS&D at least
> monthly.
> I have never had any breaches in my security so far but then again, who
> knows
> what will happen now.
>
> Again, I'm sorry for writing so much but I would really appreciat enay
> help
> you can provide. Thanks very much. Dave, (aka, Derf McKensy)
>
>



From: Ǝиçεl on
WishonaS,

So what hªs this to do with MS Windows Update?
-=-

PLEASE START YOUR OWN THREAD. This one was started for the issue of
installing KB963707, KB953297, KB974417, KB974331 in XP, NOTHING ELSE !!
Thanks.
-=-

Maybe this will help.
Fun Web Products "My Web Search" Removal Instructions and Help:
<http://www.pchell.com/support/mywebsearch.shtml>
-=-


"WishonaS" wrote:

> i HAVE "MYWEBSEARCH" it has slowed my system, No copy,No paste, No toolbar
> and No Favs. How can I get rid of it. I have Clear Wireless internet.
>
> "Sam @ Clear Waters Services" wrote:
>
> > For the last 3-4 months updates have failed. Suggestions for a fix?
> > First some info:
> > WV: 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090804-1435: Service Pac 3) Windows XP Home
> > addition
> >
> > Here is the current message:
> >
> > Error Code: 0x645
> > 1) Update to .NET Framework 3.5 Service Pack 1 for the .NET Framework
> > Assistant 1.0 x86 (KB963707)...Failed
> > 2) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 Service Pack 1 Security Update for Windows
> > 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2008, Windows 7, and Windows
> > Server 2008 R2 (KB953297)....Failed
> > 3) Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 Service Pack 2 Security Update for Windows
> > 2000, Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP (KB974417)....Failed
> > 4) Microsoft Silverlight Update for Microsoft Silverlight (KB974331)... Failed
From: TaurArian on
WishonaS wrote:
:: i HAVE "MYWEBSEARCH" it has slowed my system, No copy,No paste, No
:: toolbar and No Favs. How can I get rid of it. I have Clear
:: Wireless internet.
::
::

See:
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=MYWEBSEARCH&meta=&aq=f&oq=



From: gallow1 on
I want 80070103 updated; it is one of my fails. why!!.

"daniele" wrote:

> i have repeatedly attempted to do windows updates, failed everytime.
> tonight the following have failed to install again, WHY?
> Security Update for Excel 2003 (KB933666)
> Security Update for Word 2003 (KB934181)
> Security Update for Office 2003 (KB934180)
> Update for Outlook 2003 Junk Email Filter (KB934708)
> Update for PowerPoint 2003 (KB933669)
>