From: Ohmster on
"J.O. Aho" <user(a)example.net> wrote in
news:88lj1kFvabU1(a)mid.individual.net:

>
> There is another option, to use htop, which allows you to scroll in
> the list of processes, and is easier to use for those who don't have
> the skills ot rea a man page.
>

No sure what that is but sounds good, not on my computer now, I will sic
yum on it right now.
$ sudo yum install htop

Yeah, it is being installed now. Thank you JO!

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"David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
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>> What is "magic SysRq keys"? You mean Alt-Ctl-Delete or
>> Alt-Ctl-Backspace? They have no effect at all.
>
> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
>
> Alt+Ctrl+RSEISUB (ALT+Ctrl held down, press each of the
> other keys in order, with a second or two, between each
> keypress
> Remember, Raising Skinny Elephants, Is Still Utterly Boring.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins
>

This is so freaking cool! I know a lot about Linux but could never hold a
candle to you professional geeks, though. I for sure saved that page as a
pdf and bookmarked it. All these years and I never even know about that key
set. Oh man so many times I could have used it. Wahhh, I wanna be a Linux
Administrator too! Actually, I am seeking emplyment now through our state
workforce program. They do test, recommend, and train you for a new job or
career. I did very well in computer/research, but not well in "Real" skill
set (Operating a machine, assebly line work, running a drill press, etc. I
can do that stuff but do not want to.). I am a 20+ years electronic
technician now doing plasma, LCD, DLP, and all HDTV stuff. Only a few big
companies here do that and I have worked for and left both of them. A
career change is in the works for me.

Thank you David.

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From: David W. Hodgins on
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:19:14 -0400, Ohmster <root(a)dev.nul.invalid> wrote:

> "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in
> news:op.vewc61hna3w0dxdave(a)hodgins.homeip.net:
>
>>> What is "magic SysRq keys"? You mean Alt-Ctl-Delete or
>>> Alt-Ctl-Backspace? They have no effect at all.
>>
>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
>>
>> Alt+Ctrl+RSEISUB (ALT+Ctrl held down, press each of the
>> other keys in order, with a second or two, between each
>> keypress
>> Remember, Raising Skinny Elephants, Is Still Utterly Boring.

> This is so freaking cool! I know a lot about Linux but could never hold a

I messed up the above. It should be "(Alt+Ctrl+SysRq held down,
and press the other keys in order ...).

Other key combinations to be aware of ...

Ctrl+Esc brings up the system monitor in most desktop managers
(like task manager in windows).

Hold down Alt+Ctrl, and press the backspace key twice, quickly,
will kill the X session, returning you to the command line, if
you use run level 3, or the login screen, if you use run level 5.
This can be disabled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though, and on older
versions of X, the backspace key only had to be pressed once.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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From: J.O. Aho on
Ohmster wrote:

> htop like Aho suggested is neat as hell, way better than just top. I
> really love it, with my sudo privileges, I can kill anything just the way
> I want and when I kill X or compiz as they run amok at 90% CPU, my load
> drops to less than 10 but the screen never becomes usable again. I have
> to do a "reboot" from putty and down it goes.

This reminds me of the old days with nVidia driver, those had this bad
"features", just see to that you have the latest possible stable nVidia driver
which supports your graphics card and thins should be better.

There are some options that didn't work that well with nVidia driver,
I do suggest you disable "BackingStore", even if it's useful it breaks much more.


> Here is the problem. Once I go through all of that and here come the
> updates, I really want to backup my Linux system to the other drive or a
> USB drive so when the next update completely ruins compiz again, I can
> restore it to like before the update. I really need a good Linux backup
> solution for a simple thing like this.

I'm not that good on those tools that are around, but I have got suggestions
to use backula instead of my bash scripts, which works fine for me.



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From: Curt on
On 2010-06-28, J.O. Aho <user(a)example.net> wrote:
>
> There are some options that didn't work that well with nVidia driver,
> I do suggest you disable "BackingStore", even if it's useful it breaks much more.

The first thing I'd disable would be agp, according to my own freezing
experience (brrrr).