From: Michael Tokarev on
Bastian Blank wrote:
> The Xen event-channel device is named evtchn in the kernel but always
> used as /dev/xen/evtchn in userspace. This patch fixes the name.
>
> Signed-off-by: Bastian Blank <waldi(a)debian.org>
>
> diff --git a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> index 66e185c..89cd743 100644
> --- a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> +++ b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> @@ -471,7 +471,7 @@ static const struct file_operations evtchn_fops = {
>
> static struct miscdevice evtchn_miscdev = {
> .minor = MISC_DYNAMIC_MINOR,
> - .name = "evtchn",
> + .name = "xen/evtchn",

Um. Will existing userspace - esp. udev rules - continue
to work after this change? Also, how about other xen-related
devices which are moved to /dev/xen in that same udev rules?

Thanks!

/mjt
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From: Bastian Blank on
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 08:50:39PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
> Bastian Blank wrote:
> > The Xen event-channel device is named evtchn in the kernel but always
> > used as /dev/xen/evtchn in userspace. This patch fixes the name.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Bastian Blank <waldi(a)debian.org>
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> > index 66e185c..89cd743 100644
> > --- a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> > +++ b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
> > @@ -471,7 +471,7 @@ static const struct file_operations evtchn_fops = {
> >
> > static struct miscdevice evtchn_miscdev = {
> > .minor = MISC_DYNAMIC_MINOR,
> > - .name = "evtchn",
> > + .name = "xen/evtchn",
>
> Um. Will existing userspace - esp. udev rules - continue
> to work after this change?

The udev rules will just not longer match, as they only rename the
device, this is no problem. However libxc _will_ break, as it lacks
proper error check in its own device creation routine.

However there are not much possibilities here: this support will go away
and it will annoy every user for some time.

> Also, how about other xen-related
> devices which are moved to /dev/xen in that same udev rules?

This is the only device currently supported by the vanilla kernel,
everything else is in the Xen tree only.

Bastian

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From: Kay Sievers on
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 19:13, Bastian Blank <waldi(a)debian.org> wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 08:50:39PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote:
>> Bastian Blank wrote:
>> > The Xen event-channel device is named evtchn in the kernel but always
>> > used as /dev/xen/evtchn in userspace. This patch fixes the name.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Bastian Blank <waldi(a)debian.org>
>> >
>> > diff --git a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>> > index 66e185c..89cd743 100644
>> > --- a/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>> > +++ b/drivers/xen/evtchn.c
>> > @@ -471,7 +471,7 @@ static const struct file_operations evtchn_fops = {
>> >
>> >  static struct miscdevice evtchn_miscdev = {
>> >     .minor        = MISC_DYNAMIC_MINOR,
>> > -   .name         = "evtchn",
>> > +   .name         = "xen/evtchn",
>>
>> Um.  Will existing userspace - esp. udev rules - continue
>> to work after this change?
>
> The udev rules will just not longer match, as they only rename the
> device, this is no problem. However libxc _will_ break, as it lacks
> proper error check in its own device creation routine.
>
> However there are not much possibilities here: this support will go away
> and it will annoy every user for some time.
>
>>                             Also, how about other xen-related
>> devices which are moved to /dev/xen in that same udev rules?
>
> This is the only device currently supported by the vanilla kernel,
> everything else is in the Xen tree only.

And naming of primary device nodes is no longer udev's task. All these
rules are removed from the default udev rules. These names must all
come from the kernel these days. Udev will log errors if udev rules
specify names which are not in sync with the kernel, so they can be
fixed in the kernel or in the rules.

With devtmpfs the kernel needs to know all the names to create them on
its own. Udev only manages permissions, possibly creates additional
symlinks, runs programs, and distribute the events to userspace. Udev
no longer manages the naming of any primary device node.

Thanks,
Kay
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From: Michael Tokarev on
Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 19:13, Bastian Blank <waldi(a)debian.org> wrote:
[]
>>> Also, how about other xen-related
>>> devices which are moved to /dev/xen in that same udev rules?
>> This is the only device currently supported by the vanilla kernel,
>> everything else is in the Xen tree only.
>
> And naming of primary device nodes is no longer udev's task. All these
> rules are removed from the default udev rules. These names must all
> come from the kernel these days. Udev will log errors if udev rules
> specify names which are not in sync with the kernel, so they can be
> fixed in the kernel or in the rules.

Finally!... It's been hashed and rehashed back when udevd were
invented to replace devfs and we returned back to traditional
kernel-generated names for a base. Oh well...

That's, actually, _excellent_ news, something that bothered me
for all these years since 2.4 kernel - that I don't have some
devices in /dev (because they're named differently or moved to
a subdir) which are mentioned in dmesg or sysfs. Hooray!

Will check for all sound (/dev/snd/), input (/dev/input/), usb
(/dev/usb/) and oh, the famous tun (/dev/net/tun) devices - you
intrigued me!.. ;)

Thanks!

/mjt
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From: Jeremy Fitzhardinge on
On 05/27/2010 10:13 AM, Bastian Blank wrote:
> The udev rules will just not longer match, as they only rename the
> device, this is no problem. However libxc _will_ break, as it lacks
> proper error check in its own device creation routine.
>

Yeah, that's really annoying. I can't change the kernel without also
having a flag day to update libxc. I guess we could make sure all the
stable Xen branches get a libxc fix backported to them, but I wonder if
it would break other toolstacks?

> However there are not much possibilities here: this support will go away
> and it will annoy every user for some time.
>

But if we don't make any kernel changes then libxc will muddle on even
if udev stops handling the device name properly?

J
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