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From: Jonathan N. Little on 4 Mar 2010 09:11 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: > Jonathan N. Little wrote: >>> >>> Missing DOCTYPE declaration, triggering all kinds of >>> Quirks/Compatibility Mode incompatibilities. That's a Really Bad >>> Idea[tm]. >> >> Just missed when it did the cut and paste, > > Yeah, sure. > >> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" >> "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> >> <html> >> >> anyone who frequents this NG is aware of how thorough my examples >> typically are. > > Interesting claim, given that of the 33 postings from you here in the last > 2 1/2 months this has been the only such example. I have been posting for years here but been busy lately...but I am not going to follow Jukka and get into a pissing contest. -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
From: David Stone on 4 Mar 2010 09:37 In article <doraymeRidThis-371DE6.13531504032010(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <4b8f138a$0$22130$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, > "S.T." <anon(a)anon.com> wrote: > > > I have a table with a substantial number of rows and need to keep the > > top row fixed/static (so that row is always visible when scrolling). > > Googling gives some answers but they *all* seem rather complicated -- > > most utilizing javascript -- apparently to make the technique work in IE. > > > > In this case I don't care whether it works on IE or not -- is there a > > simpler CSS/HTML method that will work for the latest version of > > Firefox, and if so any hints on what to look for like some > > -moz-whatever: rule I'm not aware of? > > > > Thanks > > You could look at something like: > > <http://www.imaputz.com/cssStuff/bigFourVersion.html> > > Works in a variety of Mac browsers. Not sure about Windows. dorayme, I thought you had posted something before that would do the job? The bookmark I _thought_ referred to the example was http://dorayme.890m.com/alt/pseudoFrames.html, but this no longer appears to be valid. Do you still have your pseudoFrames.html somewhere? (Chances are it's not what I thought it was but, if I bookmarked it, there must have been a good reason!)
From: BootNic on 4 Mar 2010 11:52 On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:38 +0100 Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: > Jonathan N. Little wrote: > >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote: >>>> The following tweak is recommended: >>>> >>>> <!--[if IE 7]> >>>> <style type="text/css"> >>>> /* IE 7: Support for scrollable tbody is buggy */ >>>> [snip] >> >> IMO the proprietary conditional comments is a bad idea. Defeats the >> purpose of separating markup from stylesheets and JavaScript with >> external files. Change you style and you now editing /n/ pages >> instead of *one* stylesheet. MS takes another stab at making a 2.1 >> compliant browser and ditto to updating those /n/ pages with a new >> fork in the comments. No thanks. Play the graceful degrade for >> *inferior* browsers... > > What are you babbling about? The Conditional Comments are the only > means to handle *this* quirk of *this* MSHTML version reliably. Interesting! Well I suppose it may be a perspective issue. :root table.static tbody {â¦} -- BootNic Thu Mar 4, 2010 11:52 am "This seems like a case where we need to shoot the messenger." *Charlie Kaufman on Cypherpunks list* â 130 days remaining
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn on 4 Mar 2010 11:56 BootNic wrote: > Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars(a)web.de> wrote: >> Jonathan N. Little wrote: >>> IMO the proprietary conditional comments is a bad idea. Defeats the >>> purpose of separating markup from stylesheets and JavaScript with >>> external files. Change you style and you now editing /n/ pages >>> instead of *one* stylesheet. MS takes another stab at making a 2.1 >>> compliant browser and ditto to updating those /n/ pages with a new >>> fork in the comments. No thanks. Play the graceful degrade for >>> *inferior* browsers... >> >> What are you babbling about? The Conditional Comments are the only >> means to handle *this* quirk of *this* MSHTML version reliably. > > Interesting! Well I suppose it may be a perspective issue. > > :root table.static tbody {…} By comparison, CSS hacks like this are definitely going to do something unintended once the corresponding selector is supported by an implementation, regardless whether the feature declared with it is going to be supported. They completely fail to address the issue. PointedEars
From: dorayme on 4 Mar 2010 12:32
In article <no.email-B3842E.09373204032010(a)news1.chem.utoronto.ca>, David Stone <no.email(a)domain.invalid> wrote: > In article <doraymeRidThis-371DE6.13531504032010(a)news.albasani.net>, > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <4b8f138a$0$22130$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, > > "S.T." <anon(a)anon.com> wrote: > > > > > I have a table with a substantial number of rows and need to keep the > > > top row fixed/static (so that row is always visible when scrolling). > > > Googling gives some answers but they *all* seem rather complicated -- > > > most utilizing javascript -- apparently to make the technique work in IE. > > > > > > In this case I don't care whether it works on IE or not -- is there a > > > simpler CSS/HTML method that will work for the latest version of > > > Firefox, and if so any hints on what to look for like some > > > -moz-whatever: rule I'm not aware of? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > You could look at something like: > > > > <http://www.imaputz.com/cssStuff/bigFourVersion.html> > > > > Works in a variety of Mac browsers. Not sure about Windows. > > dorayme, > > I thought you had posted something before that would > do the job? The bookmark I _thought_ referred to the example > was http://dorayme.890m.com/alt/pseudoFrames.html, but this > no longer appears to be valid. Do you still have your > pseudoFrames.html somewhere? (Chances are it's not what I > thought it was but, if I bookmarked it, there must have been > a good reason!) I recall that not being about tables... That "free server" went downhill when I forgot to operate on it for a while ... but the page seems to be at <http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/alt/pseudoFrames.html> and perhaps renamed from <http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/alt/positionFixed.html> which latter has siblings: <http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/alt/positionFixed2.html> <http://dorayme.netweaver.com.au/alt/positionFixed3.html> ( Wonder why OP or the two guys engaged in the pissing competition in this thread don't instead talk about the link I gave before <http://www.imaputz.com/cssStuff/bigFourVersion.html> Doesn't anyone want to talk to me any more? Is it too many jokes, too many Jewish jokes? Did I mention that I invented a joke the other day? It came in blinding insight when I was making breakfast: "Last night I held a party that was so wild, I called the police myself" ) -- dorayme |