From: unsettled on 10 Nov 2006 14:39 T Wake wrote: > "Ben Newsam" <ben.newsam(a)ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message > news:28d7l29uofp8nriijbl2h4mvntbaqrvei4(a)4ax.com... >>They wouldn't do that in the USA would they? Ah no, they do it in Cuba >>instead and pretend it's the USA. Unless it is more convenient to say >>it's Cuba, of course. And it's years there, not days... > Yep and that coming from the supposed bastions of freedom and democracy. It > is good to see hypocrisy is alive an well in the Western world. Why do you suppose Castro backed off complaining about the imprisonment of terrorists on "his island"?
From: unsettled on 10 Nov 2006 14:41 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ej1rq5$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <45535A1F.F229D5D9(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>Islamic societies are based on law. It is a law which uses the Koran >>>>>>>as >>>>>>>its guide rather than the Bible but it is still law. >>>>>> >>>>>>And that law is currently being interpreted so that all people >>>>>>who are not Muslim must be killed. >>>>> >>>>>No it's not. That is a complete fallacy. >>>> >>>>You haven't been listening to the extremists, then. >>> >>>There's no point 'listening' to ppl like that. You simply can't take that >> >>stuff >> >>>seriously. >> >>People, who have a goal of killing you and yours, are not to >>be taken seriously? That's not how I work at all. >> >> >>> >>>>I did not say that *all* of Islam has this interpretation. >>>>It doesn't, yet. But it's only a matter of years before >>>>extremists of all kinds will have weapons that can interrupt >>>>and destroy the world's trade. >>> >>>That's utterly ridiculous ! >> >>You are ignoring the current nuclear bomb arms race that is >>happening in the Middle East. What kind of reaction will >>the Arabs have when Iran has bigger weapons than they do? >> >>>Say what you mean exactly instead of making vague allusions. >> >>I don't think I've been vague at all. > > > You have. > > >>> >>>>Do you want to prevent this mess from happening or wait until >>>>it's in your lap. If you choose the latter, not only will >>>>you have the work to clean up the mess, you will also have >>>>additional work of trying to prevent it from happening again-- >>>>which will be impossible. >>> >>>The best way to avoid a 'mess' is to behave intelligently and avoid >>>provoking >>>hostility. >> >>You are considered to be the equivalent of vermin in a certain >>interpretation of the Koran. You do not merit hositility since >>that would give you an equal standing. > > > I am considered vermin in certain interpretations of the Bible. Does this > mean we need to wage a War on Christianity? You don't need to, but you do nonetheless.
From: unsettled on 10 Nov 2006 14:42 T Wake wrote: > <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ej1t38$8qk_002(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > >>In article <45535C91.5F6C3E61(a)hotmail.com>, >> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>jmfbahciv(a)aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>unsettled wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Lloyd Parker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>Yeah, like a few million more Kurds is just what Turkey needs. >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't know what Turkey will do. I am the messenger. >>>>> >>>>>Turkey will do what they're told to do or lose out big time. >>>> >>>>Oh, the irony. >>> >>>The EU has a very big carrot and a very big stick. >> >>The carrot has worms and the stick has termites. > > > Really? How do you come to this conclusion? > > >>That makes them useless to be used for their original purpose. > > > Which was? You've learned the donkey lessons well.
From: T Wake on 10 Nov 2006 15:10 <jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej1s4m$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <5b4f8$45533c33$49ecf67$23014(a)DIALUPUSA.NET>, > unsettled <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote: >> >>Good grief, you're asking them to actually observe and >>think rather than follow the lemming. > > Of course I am. They are human and there is a possibility > one of them may reexamine his assumptions. If not, there are other > readers who may begin to think rather than repeat soundbites. > That's (getting people to think objectively) is my agenda here. Boom. There goes a whole box load of irony meters. >> I think it will >>take amother major disaster before they'll do that. Even >>then the likelihood exists they'll blame the US. > > Of course they will blame the US. Generalisation. > Why do you think these > posters have taken the stance that they have? You are generalising here again. > If the > real mess makers are recognized, these posters will have > to deal with the reality of that; my current hypothesis > is that they can not. Not will not, but cannot. My current theory is that you are blinded by obsessive obedience to a set dogma to ever be able to rationally determine who is a mess maker, what messes are possible vs what is plausible and what the reality of global interactions involves.
From: T Wake on 10 Nov 2006 15:18
<jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:ej1uag$8qk_003(a)s995.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... > In article <i5-dnVZNbt7jHc7YnZ2dnUVZ8tCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net>, > "T Wake" <usenet.es7at(a)gishpuppy.com> wrote: >> >><jmfbahciv(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>news:eiv90t$8qk_001(a)s839.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com... >>> In article <rA14h.8307$B31.443(a)newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>, >> >><snip> >>> If everything the Republicans said was to make me fearful, why am >>> I not afraid? >><snip> >> >>You are. You are afraid of the world losing knowledge. > > I don't think that's fear. I dislike having to redo everything. How can it not be a fear? If it isn't can we establish a common definition of the word fear please? >> Of a big mess which >>will take ten years to prevent. Of a minimum wage coming and causing a >>mess >>in three years. Etc. > > Raising the minimum wage is stupid and insane. Really? I wasn't aware you were an experienced economist. I am not so I have no real idea if it will harm or help the national economy. I know in the UK the fears it would destroy small business were found to be false. > That's not fear; > that pure unadulterated disgust. Yet you are worrying about something which will happen in the future. That is fear to me. >> >>The funny thing is, none are realistic fears. You aren't afraid of the >>really scary things. > > > What do you think is a really scary thing? Sacrificing previously assumed liberties in the name of "national security." Sacrificing peoples way of life in the vain hope that the duration of life can be extended. Destroying economies in the vain effort of "spreading democracy." Throwing away the presumption of innocence in criminal trial. War with NK is scary. On the religion front, I am sometimes worried that religious fanatics will gain power - but the Christians are much more scary. |