From: unsettled on
T Wake wrote:

> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4554EF54.F7F411B6(a)hotmail.com...
>
>>
>>T Wake wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>And to BAH - it's not *insurance* when the state does it.
>>>>>
>>>>>The mindset that it is insurance is indeed part of what we need to
>>>>>change.
>>>>>Call the government-supplied military "providing for the common
>>>>>defense",
>>>>>and everybody accepts it. Call it "war insurance" and suddenly it
>>>>>takes
>>>>>on a different tenor, as in "hey, you couldn't afford war insurance, I
>>>
>>>guess
>>>
>>>>>it's your turn to die today." Or to take this comical analogy one
>>>>>step
>>>>>further, why not consider health care to be a "war on disease". There
>>>>>are parallels to actual war...everybody is affected, it kills lots of
>>>
>>>people,
>>>
>>>>>and it has great societal costs if not taken care of.
>>>>
>>>>Interesting analogy.
>>>>
>>>>I've seen no-one suggest that the Army, Navy and Air Force be put under
>>>>private ownership.
>>>
>>>Only a matter of time...
>>
>>Maybe the Chinese can do it cheaper ?
>
>
> Probably. Already a lot of what was previously a military function is
> contracted out to civilian defence companies (I know because my job hinges
> on it), so I wonder how long before it will be civilian companies which
> operate the UAVs, or the AWACs or the like.

Why waste their training if they want out of the military
and are well qualified for the jobs.

> Eventually, even the ground troops _may_ find themselves out for tender.

George Washington met them at Trenton, so that's not a new
idea.

From: Eeyore on


unsettled wrote:

> T Wake wrote:
> > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>unsettled wrote:
> >>>T Wake wrote:
> >>>>"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>T Wake wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>For credit points: What cease fire violations did Saddam commit?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Didn't they 'lock on' to various flight with their AA radars a few
> >>>>>times ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes. Any AD radar activations within the NFZ were followed up by
> >>>>strikes as
> >>>>were any AD radar which was suspected of painting Coalition aircraft.
> >>>
> >>>That used to be called "target illumination." When
> >>>detected it is rightfully understood to be a threat.
> >
> > Yes it is a threat. What is your point?
> >
> >
> >>>"Painting"?
> >>
> >>So ?
> >>
> >>
> >>>Now there's a bit of doublespeak for you.
> >>
> >>What's your point ?
> >
> >
> > Not sure why it considers "painting" doublespeak, seems fairly appropriate
> > considering how AD radar systems work.
>
> Because it is doublespeak, concealing the threatening nature
> of the act. But you knew that.

Good Lord !

Talk about grabbing at straws.

Graham


From: lucasea on

"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:c8u9l2p15huilmdlqg8okct65cdt6ap5hm(a)4ax.com...
>
>Not that we're
> lily-white, but we don't exactly go around skewering babies for
> snacks either.


How's that for damnation by faint praise? How far we've fallen from our
high ideals--from "Give me liberty or give me death!" and "E pluribus unum"
to "At least we don't skewer babies for snacks!"

Eric Lucas


From: Jonathan Kirwan on
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:39:20 GMT, <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>"John Fields" <jfields(a)austininstruments.com> wrote in message
>news:c8u9l2p15huilmdlqg8okct65cdt6ap5hm(a)4ax.com...
>>
>>Not that we're
>> lily-white, but we don't exactly go around skewering babies for
>> snacks either.
>
>How's that for damnation by faint praise? How far we've fallen from our
>high ideals--from "Give me liberty or give me death!" and "E pluribus unum"
>to "At least we don't skewer babies for snacks!"

Well, it's a floor beneath which some here in the US promise not to
sink. There are others, luckily, with somewhat higher standards.
You've seen them speak at the polls, recently. :)

Jon
From: unsettled on
T Wake wrote:

> <lucasea(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:bB55h.6678$yl4.4954(a)newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>"unsettled" <unsettled(a)nonsense.com> wrote in message
>>news:c3094$4554d332$4fe7132$32504(a)DIALUPUSA.NET...
>>
>>>T Wake wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I am considered vermin in certain interpretations of the Bible. Does
>>>>this mean we need to wage a War on Christianity?
>>>
>>>You don't need to, but you do nonetheless.
>
>
> Poor Unsettled. It has nothing to add, but a compulsive need to post.
>
> What War on Christianity am I waging? I have no concerns as to the religion
> people practice in their own homes. I do object to being subject to
> religion-derived law though.

If you're actually an athiest then you know that
religion is derived from the human experience.

If not, then why would you worry about this? Only
a worry if you've crossed swords with the almighty.

Either way, your argument is a loser.

>>The rhetoric has now raised the stakes, to where disagreeing with the US
>>government's foreign policies has gone from "anti-American" to "treason",
>>and is now has reached the pinnacle of being a "War on Christianity". Is
>>anybody else getting a sense of what we *really* need to start being
>>afraid of? In my best upstate New York accent: "We have nothing to
>>fe-ah....but jingoistic rhetoric itself."
>
>
> :-)
>
>