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From: pebkac on 24 Jun 2010 17:53
On 2010-05-10 10:10:54 -0400, occassionally-confused(a)nospam.co.uk said:

> http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/business/services/using-your-phone-abroad/euroboosters/

There
>
> is a huge difference between how long �10 lasts: 24hrs versus 30
> days.
>
> Their support cannot explain how this is worked out.
>
> I use a Nokia E51 as a modem for a laptop. I also use a T-M SIM card
> in a laptop's GPRS/3G card.

Probably more like support didn't want to say how it was worked out so
people wouldn't circumvent it!

My guess is when you are using web, it would use the headers your
browser sends (which includes the browser). If it identifies itself as
Internet Explorer on Windows 7, then chances are you're not using your
handset...

From: mark on 25 Jun 2010 03:35
On 25 June, 07:08, Peter <occassionally-confu...(a)nospam.co.uk> wrote:
> pebkac wrote
>
>
>
> >On 2010-05-10 10:10:54 -0400, occassionally-confu...(a)nospam.co.uk said:
>
> >>http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/business/services/using-your-phone-abroad/e....
>
> >There
>
> >> is a huge difference between how long £10 lasts: 24hrs versus 30
> >> days.
>
> >> Their support cannot explain how this is worked out.
>
> >> I use a Nokia E51 as a modem for a laptop. I also use a T-M SIM card
> >> in a laptop's GPRS/3G card.
>
> >Probably more like support didn't want to say how it was worked out so
> >people wouldn't circumvent it!
>
> >My guess is when you are using web, it would use the headers your
> >browser sends (which includes the browser). If it identifies itself as
> >Internet Explorer on Windows 7, then chances are you're not using your
> >handset...
>
> It is possible you are right but what if somebody doesn't use a
> browser? There are actually people who use the internet but not the
> www ;)
>
> IMHO, and from the info I was able to extract from T-M, they
> differentiate purely according to which product you bought the SIM
> with. Buy it with their USB GPRS/3G radio, and your 50MB lasts 24hrs.
> Buy it with a phone (or probably in any way including a standalone
> SIM) and the 50MB lasts 30 days.
>
> I have just been around Europe for 2 weeks and been using the 50MB/30
> day bundle 99% for data, and it worked fine. I use a windoze laptop
> with Firefox, IE, a POP3 client, a SMTP client, PPTP VPN stuff, etc.
> Any of these should give them a clue that this is a "laptop" and not a
> "phone".

I agree. In the legal section, it stipulates :

Euro Internet Boosters
..... Remember you can't use your phone as a modem or use internet on
your phone for peer to peer file sharing, instant messaging (except if
you have a Sidekick) or making internet phone calls.

Which to me says ... if you have a handset, then you can purchase the
Euro Internet Booster to use the handset as a modem for your laptop
and you must only purchase the Euro Broadband Booster if you have a
data dongle.

Cheers,
Mark
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