From: Bill Davidsen on 10 Jul 2010 15:47 Robert Myers wrote: > On Jul 9, 6:56 pm, Bill Davidsen <david...(a)tmr.com> wrote: > >> That's one of the reasons I'm looking at an i7-930 and Asus m/b for a hosting >> system, I can get to 12GB with cheap memory. On the other hand, the i7-875 >> unlocked is cheap and allows o/c by use of multiplier. But no cheap memory >> there, need 4GB parts. I'm tempted to build a host machine with Xeons and ECC >> memory, slightly more reliable and all, but I think slower. >> >> Lots of ways to go, each with a drawback. :-( > > I was just as happy that the i-7 920 slipped through the oddities of > Intel's market segmentation strategies. When the chip had just come > out, I saw a geek buying the parts to build a computer for a chess > competition. Who else buys machines with these chips? I can use the > memory bandwidth, but, for most, the triple channel arrangement is > overkill. All you really want is the extra memory slots. Just glad > to have it, wish 4GB sticks weren't so expensive. > It's relative, Newegg has a sale on three channel memory, ddr3 1600, 12GB/$500. I can remember not having 12GB of disk, so that's not all that expensive. They have the i7-930 and Asus board for $500 also, TB drives for $68, I paid millions for that kind of capacity "back when." ;-) But the memory isn't that crazy, I was thinking that for $1k I could move from one old core2-6600 w/ 4GB to enough to make the VMs dance a little faster.
From: Robert Myers on 10 Jul 2010 16:36 On Jul 10, 3:47 pm, Bill Davidsen <david...(a)tmr.com> wrote: > But the memory isn't that crazy, I was thinking that for $1k I could move from > one old core2-6600 w/ 4GB to enough to make the VMs dance a little faster.. I haven't gushed about a chip since the 130nm Tualatin. Mostly, I've wondered why the chip couldn't deliver what I expected. Core i7-920 is an exception. Virtualization works well enough so that, except for Linux and the sound card, I don't notice that I'm using a virtual machine, which is noticeably faster than a 3GHz Pentium 4 for Linux. Windows XP on Windows Vista even makes the sound card transparent. I'm using all vmware, so I don't know how other solutions might work. I haven't yet succeeded in overloading it. I'll admit, I've become so cynical about computers and software that just seeing a gnome-terminal pop when I ask for it seems like a miracle, never mind that it's on a virtual box. Admittedly, the core 2 duo E8xx almost seem like overkill for a single user, but I haven't tried to virtualize anything on them (yet). Robert.
From: chrisv on 14 Jul 2010 15:22 Bill Davidsen wrote: >chrisv wrote: >> >> Bill Davidsen wrote: >>> >>> Except for gamer machines, vendors expect the cover to stay on. >> >> Nonsense. Any PC must be expected to have memory and/or PCI cards >> added. >> >Could you note the source of that opinion? Err, that's why the slots are there. Your foolishness regarding 200W video cards does not disprove my point. The usual memory and/or PCI card addition is handled just fine in almost every situation.
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