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From: ToddAndMargo on 13 Feb 2010 18:44
On 02/13/2010 02:44 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> After the 02/09/2010 updates went on, I am getting calls
> from customers complaining about massive slowdowns.
>
> From my initial research, I have found that if I copy
> a file they are having trouble opening on the network to
> their desktop, the slowdown vanishes. The slowdown
> only occurs when trying to open a file, such as an
> Excel spreadsheet, from the network. What should
> take 1 second, takes 10 to 15 seconds.
>
> Now, two of the three, business users complaining
> are using Samba (Linux) for their file server.
> So, no Microsoft patches on those servers. The
> third business is using peer to peer. All
> of the workstations are using XP-Pro-SP3.
>
> Most of the XP workstations are running Kaspersky
> Word Space Security (KWSS): kav6.0.4.1212_winwksen.exe.
> Some prior versions of KWSS too. Both pausing
> and exiting KWSS does not change the symptom.
>
> I am seeing these as the (XP) update on 02/09/2010:
>
> KB978706
> KB978251
> KB975713
> KB978262
> KB978037
> KB971468
> KB975560
> KB977914
> KB977165 <-- heard this one causes BSOD's
> KB890830
> KB905866
> KB979099
> KB978506
> (did I miss any?)
>
> I am about to start uninstalling them one at a time,
> but thought I'd ask the groups first what they thought.
> Be nice if I only had to uninstall one. Tons of rebooting
> the other way. :'(
>
> Many thanks,
> -T

Good news. I removed KB977165 from two workstation and
they are back to normal. I will check the rest on Monday.

-T
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 13 Feb 2010 18:40
cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/msg/2a76e4c9dd0b944c
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002

ToddAndMargo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> After the 02/09/2010 updates went on, I am getting calls
> from customers complaining about massive slowdowns.
>
> From my initial research, I have found that if I copy
> a file they are having trouble opening on the network to
> their desktop, the slowdown vanishes. The slowdown
> only occurs when trying to open a file, such as an
> Excel spreadsheet, from the network. What should
> take 1 second, takes 10 to 15 seconds.
>
> Now, two of the three, business users complaining
> are using Samba (Linux) for their file server.
> So, no Microsoft patches on those servers. The
> third business is using peer to peer. All
> of the workstations are using XP-Pro-SP3.
>
> Most of the XP workstations are running Kaspersky
> Word Space Security (KWSS): kav6.0.4.1212_winwksen.exe.
> Some prior versions of KWSS too. Both pausing
> and exiting KWSS does not change the symptom.
>
> I am seeing these as the (XP) update on 02/09/2010:
>
> KB978706
> KB978251
> KB975713
> KB978262
> KB978037
> KB971468
> KB975560
> KB977914
> KB977165 <-- heard this one causes BSOD's
> KB890830
> KB905866
> KB979099
> KB978506
> (did I miss any?)
>
> I am about to start uninstalling them one at a time,
> but thought I'd ask the groups first what they thought.
> Be nice if I only had to uninstall one. Tons of rebooting
> the other way. :'(
>
> Many thanks,
> -T

From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 13 Feb 2010 18:48
<yawn>

ToddAndMargo wrote:
> On 02/13/2010 02:44 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> After the 02/09/2010 updates went on, I am getting calls
>> from customers complaining about massive slowdowns.
>>
>> From my initial research, I have found that if I copy
>> a file they are having trouble opening on the network to
>> their desktop, the slowdown vanishes. The slowdown
>> only occurs when trying to open a file, such as an
>> Excel spreadsheet, from the network. What should
>> take 1 second, takes 10 to 15 seconds.
>>
>> Now, two of the three, business users complaining
>> are using Samba (Linux) for their file server.
>> So, no Microsoft patches on those servers. The
>> third business is using peer to peer. All
>> of the workstations are using XP-Pro-SP3.
>>
>> Most of the XP workstations are running Kaspersky
>> Word Space Security (KWSS): kav6.0.4.1212_winwksen.exe.
>> Some prior versions of KWSS too. Both pausing
>> and exiting KWSS does not change the symptom.
>>
>> I am seeing these as the (XP) update on 02/09/2010:
>>
>> KB978706
>> KB978251
>> KB975713
>> KB978262
>> KB978037
>> KB971468
>> KB975560
>> KB977914
>> KB977165 <-- heard this one causes BSOD's
>> KB890830
>> KB905866
>> KB979099
>> KB978506
>> (did I miss any?)
>>
>> I am about to start uninstalling them one at a time,
>> but thought I'd ask the groups first what they thought.
>> Be nice if I only had to uninstall one. Tons of rebooting
>> the other way. :'(
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> -T
>
> Good news. I removed KB977165 from two workstation and
> they are back to normal. I will check the rest on Monday.
>
> -T
From: Anteaus on 15 Feb 2010 03:39
Did a quick test from an XP VM to a Linux server, and saw no obvious problems
after the update. It may of course be this problem is specific to other
circumstances.

Just a thought, though, check your problem isn't caused by LAN card
powersave. This sometimes gets turned back on when any major system-change is
done.

From the technet writeup it seems this patch relates to escalation of
priveleges for a locally logged-on user. Therefore (AFAICS) only of high
concern if malware or a malicious user already has system-access.


"ToddAndMargo" wrote:

> On 02/13/2010 02:44 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > After the 02/09/2010 updates went on, I am getting calls
> > from customers complaining about massive slowdowns.
> >
> > From my initial research, I have found that if I copy
> > a file they are having trouble opening on the network to
> > their desktop, the slowdown vanishes. The slowdown
> > only occurs when trying to open a file, such as an
> > Excel spreadsheet, from the network. What should
> > take 1 second, takes 10 to 15 seconds.
> >
> > Now, two of the three, business users complaining
> > are using Samba (Linux) for their file server.
> > So, no Microsoft patches on those servers. The
> > third business is using peer to peer. All
> > of the workstations are using XP-Pro-SP3.
> >
> > Most of the XP workstations are running Kaspersky
> > Word Space Security (KWSS): kav6.0.4.1212_winwksen.exe.
> > Some prior versions of KWSS too. Both pausing
> > and exiting KWSS does not change the symptom.
> >
> > I am seeing these as the (XP) update on 02/09/2010:
> >
> > KB978706
> > KB978251
> > KB975713
> > KB978262
> > KB978037
> > KB971468
> > KB975560
> > KB977914
> > KB977165 <-- heard this one causes BSOD's
> > KB890830
> > KB905866
> > KB979099
> > KB978506
> > (did I miss any?)
> >
> > I am about to start uninstalling them one at a time,
> > but thought I'd ask the groups first what they thought.
> > Be nice if I only had to uninstall one. Tons of rebooting
> > the other way. :'(
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > -T
>
> Good news. I removed KB977165 from two workstation and
> they are back to normal. I will check the rest on Monday.
>
> -T
> .
>
From: ToddAndMargo on 15 Feb 2010 14:11
> ToddAndMargo wrote:
>> On 02/13/2010 02:44 PM, ToddAndMargo wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> After the 02/09/2010 updates went on, I am getting calls
>>> from customers complaining about massive slowdowns.
>>>
>>> From my initial research, I have found that if I copy
>>> a file they are having trouble opening on the network to
>>> their desktop, the slowdown vanishes. The slowdown
>>> only occurs when trying to open a file, such as an
>>> Excel spreadsheet, from the network. What should
>>> take 1 second, takes 10 to 15 seconds.
>>>
>>> Now, two of the three, business users complaining
>>> are using Samba (Linux) for their file server.
>>> So, no Microsoft patches on those servers. The
>>> third business is using peer to peer. All
>>> of the workstations are using XP-Pro-SP3.
>>>
>>> Most of the XP workstations are running Kaspersky
>>> Word Space Security (KWSS): kav6.0.4.1212_winwksen.exe.
>>> Some prior versions of KWSS too. Both pausing
>>> and exiting KWSS does not change the symptom.
>>>
>>> I am seeing these as the (XP) update on 02/09/2010:
>>>
>>> KB978706
>>> KB978251
>>> KB975713
>>> KB978262
>>> KB978037
>>> KB971468
>>> KB975560
>>> KB977914
>>> KB977165 <-- heard this one causes BSOD's
>>> KB890830
>>> KB905866
>>> KB979099
>>> KB978506
>>> (did I miss any?)
>>>
>>> I am about to start uninstalling them one at a time,
>>> but thought I'd ask the groups first what they thought.
>>> Be nice if I only had to uninstall one. Tons of rebooting
>>> the other way. :'(
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>> -T
>>
>> Good news. I removed KB977165 from two workstation and
>> they are back to normal. I will check the rest on Monday.
>>
>> -T


On 02/13/2010 03:48 PM, PA Bear [MS MVP] top posted:
> <yawn>
>

More good news: I have about ten more workstations
with KB977165 removed and happy camping has returned.

And, more good news: I also checked with Kaspersky
and we can find no sign of any infection.

Yipee!

-T
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