From: John Navas on
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Could be an iPad killer -- Microsoft may have finally got one right.

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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:12:08 -0800, John Navas
<spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

><http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/06/microsoft_courier_details_report/>
>
>Could be an iPad killer -- Microsoft may have finally got one right.

It was also leaked about 6 months ago. Nothing happened:
<http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/09/23/microsoft_courier/>
It sure looks nice. However, since it's Zune based (WinCE 6), my
guess(tm) is that there will be copious legal limitations and
entanglements limiting user installed software, music, user created
apps, etc. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Microsoft Surface:
<http://www.microsoft.com/surface/>
and Palladium -> Trustworthy Computing (TwC) -> MSE -> etc:
<http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/twc/>
Yawn.


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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:23:26 -0800, SMS <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:12:08 -0800, John Navas
>> <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/06/microsoft_courier_details_report/>
>>>
>>> Could be an iPad killer -- Microsoft may have finally got one right.
>>
>> It was also leaked about 6 months ago. Nothing happened:
>> <http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/09/23/microsoft_courier/>
>> It sure looks nice. However, since it's Zune based (WinCE 6), my
>> guess(tm) is that there will be copious legal limitations and
>> entanglements limiting user installed software, music, user created
>
>It doesn't matter how great the hardware is, where are the apps?

It's based on the Zune, so whatever was running on the Zune before it
died will probably work. Yech.

Possibly, it will be sold as an "internet appliance" where you rent
your web based applications from Microsoft:
<http://home.live.com>

Of course, developers will be lining up to for Visual Studio Basic
Ultra-Lite Express Developers Edition, which requires signing the 200
page MS EULA, Release of Liability, and Loyalty Oath.

>The iPad is going to be the 2010 "educational" toy and entertainment
>device sitter that parents buy their kids. Those kids with a Nintendo
>DSi in the car will be so 2009. The Microsoft product, if it's real, is
>going to be more of a product used for actual work.

It's very rare when a new product niche is actually used in the manner
the manufacturer intended. The iPod Touch and iPhone were suppose to
be Blackberry and HP iPaq killers. Instead, it's turned into a nifty
game machine, porno viewer, YouTube viewer, and hackers delight (after
jailbreaking).
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GdQmmbO2T4>

I don't know what one does with an iPad, but I do have a guess. One
of the hacks in my office building had a cardboard full size mockup of
the iPad and was trying to see how it would fit on the dashboard of
his vehicle. One person in this newsgroups was considering using it
as a portable order entry and cash register for his bicycle store.
Personally, I think it's just a bigger iPod Touch for those of us that
can't see the tiny screen and have the fat finger keyboard problem.

>> apps, etc. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for Microsoft Surface:
>
>Microsoft Surface has been in commercial use for several years already.

Sorta. There are a few high profile customers, slick devices, and
cool applications, but nothing that I can afford today.
<http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/microsofts-new-pc-surfaces/story-e6frganf-1111113649360>
Microsoft said it would manufacture the machine itself and
initially sell it to corporate customers, deploying the first
units in November in Sheraton hotels, Harrah's casinos, T-Mobile
stores, and restaurants.

The company is selling the Surface for between $US5000 ($6078)
and $10,000 each, but aims to bring prices down to consumer
levels in three to five years and introduce various shapes
and forms.
Well, that was 2007. Here we are 3 years later and nothing
affordable.

Ever read "Show-Stopper" by G.P. Zachary? It's the story of how David
Cutler managed to deliver Windoze NT. The delays, disasters, and high
pressure brute force necessary to get anything out the door at MS are
detailed in the book. My guess(tm) is that any product that MS does
itself, instead of buying the company, requires such an effort.

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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:59:42 -0800, JC Dill <jcdill.lists(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> It's very rare when a new product niche is actually used in the manner
>> the manufacturer intended.
>
>A photographer friend thinks the iPad will be used as a portable
>portfolio display device for photographers. We won't need to make
>portfolio books anymore, just load photos into a slideshow application
>on the iPad and click play. It will be easy (perhaps too easy) to carry
>multiple portfolios, each with a different type of image (e.g.
>landscapes, weddings, sports).

Good idea. Too bad Apple didn't include an SD card slot or USB jack
to install one externally. (Drivel: This kinda reminds me of the
NeXT Cube, which in 1989 didn't have a floppy disk drive.) I'm not
sure what is the politically correct method of loading photos on the
iPad, but if it's like the iPod Touch, your friend is going to have to
do it with iTunes or one of an assortment of utilities. I use Pod To
PC:
<http://www.podtopc.com> ($20)
<http://www.podtomac.com> (???)
An SD card slot would have been soooooo much easier. However, you can
store an awfully large number of photos in 16, 32, or 64GBytes of
flash RAM in the iPad.

The iPad is scheduled for release April 3. Let's see if Apple pulls
off another iPhone style release and gouges the early adopters.


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From: Char Jackson on
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:27:04 GMT, sfdavidkaye2(a)yahoo.com (David Kaye)
wrote:

>JC Dill <jcdill.lists(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>A photographer friend thinks the iPad will be used as a portable
>>portfolio display device for photographers. We won't need to make
>>portfolio books anymore, just load photos into a slideshow application
>>on the iPad and click play.
>
>Who needs an expensive iPad when a cheap picture frame display will accomplish
>the same thing? Sony's got a nice one with automatic slide show for $100.

Cheap is a relative term. I'm waiting for those picture frames to
break the $14.95 mark, then I'm jumping in.