From: AES on
In article <olv4p5lsrstoknufqss60sqq7k2fqumlpt(a)navasgroup.com>,
John Navas <spamfilter1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote:

> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/06/microsoft_courier_details_report/>
>
> Could be an iPad killer -- Microsoft may have finally got one right.
>

*Very* impressive.

If I could do all the tasks shown there using this (or a similar) gadget
while sitting at the kitchen table, or by the fire in my living room,
but have the operations actually being carried out (**and captured**) on
my MacBook, which is tethered to a large-screen display, external
keyboard, etc, in my home office -- that would truly be "insanely great".
From: Steve Fenwick on
In article <eqe6p51puipru62212l94gm2buhjuqnqn4(a)4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

> It's very rare when a new product niche is actually used in the manner
> the manufacturer intended. The iPod Touch and iPhone were suppose to
> be Blackberry and HP iPaq killers. Instead, it's turned into a nifty
> game machine, porno viewer, YouTube viewer, and hackers delight (after
> jailbreaking).
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GdQmmbO2T4>

I don't recall Apple calling them Blackberry and iPaq killers. Lots in
the media, yes.


> I don't know what one does with an iPad, but I do have a guess. One
> of the hacks in my office building had a cardboard full size mockup of
> the iPad and was trying to see how it would fit on the dashboard of
> his vehicle. One person in this newsgroups was considering using it
> as a portable order entry and cash register for his bicycle store.
> Personally, I think it's just a bigger iPod Touch for those of us that
> can't see the tiny screen and have the fat finger keyboard problem.

Killer apps might be any MMORPGs. Latency would suck over 3G, but at
least one could do character maintenance, AH, etc. Use the accelerometer
for control.

Steve

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From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:22:21 -0800, Steve Fenwick
<nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <eqe6p51puipru62212l94gm2buhjuqnqn4(a)4ax.com>,
> Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
>
>> It's very rare when a new product niche is actually used in the manner
>> the manufacturer intended. The iPod Touch and iPhone were suppose to
>> be Blackberry and HP iPaq killers. Instead, it's turned into a nifty
>> game machine, porno viewer, YouTube viewer, and hackers delight (after
>> jailbreaking).
>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GdQmmbO2T4>
>
>I don't recall Apple calling them Blackberry and iPaq killers. Lots in
>the media, yes.

Correct. Apple did not say that. There was no need as the customers
and media can figure it out for themselves. One look at iWork should
be sufficient.
<http://www.apple.com/iwork/>

>Killer apps might be any MMORPGs. Latency would suck over 3G, but at
>least one could do character maintenance, AH, etc. Use the accelerometer
>for control.

A what?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game>
I'll plead ignorant as I don't play those. The closest I've tried is
some online flight simulator air combat game where I was shot down 10
times in succession within a few minutes. As for latency, get the
Wi-Fi version of the iPad.

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From: Steve Fenwick on
In article <tvp6p5d44pv330li8d1tbfno5qsn6pddih(a)4ax.com>,
Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:22:21 -0800, Steve Fenwick
> <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> >In article <eqe6p51puipru62212l94gm2buhjuqnqn4(a)4ax.com>,
> > Jeff Liebermann <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It's very rare when a new product niche is actually used in the manner
> >> the manufacturer intended. The iPod Touch and iPhone were suppose to
> >> be Blackberry and HP iPaq killers. Instead, it's turned into a nifty
> >> game machine, porno viewer, YouTube viewer, and hackers delight (after
> >> jailbreaking).
> >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GdQmmbO2T4>
> >
> >I don't recall Apple calling them Blackberry and iPaq killers. Lots in
> >the media, yes.
>
> Correct. Apple did not say that. There was no need as the customers
> and media can figure it out for themselves. One look at iWork should
> be sufficient.
> <http://www.apple.com/iwork/>

You mentioned the iPhone and iPod touch, neither of which run iWork, nor
interface with it in any meaningful way (e.g., you can't show a Keynote
presentation on an iPhone). If you're saying that Apple is chasing the
enterprise market, it doesn't seem so to me--the XServe is still sold,
but only with quad-cores (the MacPro is up to 8 cores), but the the
XServe appears to have been replaced with a Promise product. I really
don't see any substantial marketing effort towards enterprise. The whole
iPhone vs. Blackberry is a creation of the media. If I said you were
competing with AppleCare, that would be about as correct.


> >Killer apps might be any MMORPGs. Latency would suck over 3G, but at
> >least one could do character maintenance, AH, etc. Use the accelerometer
> >for control.
>
> A what?
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game>
> I'll plead ignorant as I don't play those. The closest I've tried is
> some online flight simulator air combat game where I was shot down 10
> times in succession within a few minutes. As for latency, get the
> Wi-Fi version of the iPad.

Flight sims would also be good applications, as long as there's an easy
autopilot option to keep unintentional tilts from causing a player to
auger in.

Both models have WiFi; the 3G version adds 3G and retains WiFi.

Steve

--
steve <at> w0x0f <dot> com
"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to
skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, chip shot in the other, body thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"