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From: Gianna Stefani on 2 Mar 2005 13:29
eddy wrote:
> Gianna Stefani wrote:
>
>>edddy wrote:
>>
>>>fozzy3276(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Can anyone deocde this? Please e-mail.
>>>>
>>>>ESQDH RBXTY CGQOQ ZMQGP HPMWI ZDKTV CNYRW LOCYZ LFPNV XTEVT LHRIR
>>>
>>>TDKQD
>>>
>>>
>>>>BAPFT YPDRG IRFRP BHPMW YRWLM ZTZBT QZOIV BVTRL QNYET CLFBA POSIQ
>>>
>>>CQCGQ
>>>
>>>
>>>>COBRX PFTIS OCWAT BCGQD PNBHX BLOMW KAWOB AGAPN ZHIAT PCTQC BRYTV
>>>
>>>TLOFT
>>>
>>>
>>>>CDCOR YTPND MWUBQ CDMWE OQACR BYQLT MQXBY RVNTP QCTRM LPECO AT
>>>
>>>
>>>A simple word substituiton cipher it appears. Every five letters
>
> means
>
>>>it is given a format to confuse. Ignore the five letter sets.
>>>
>>
>>It has long been customary to group cryptograms into 5 letter groups
>>because the radio operator would transmit the signal in 5 letter
>
> groups.
>
>>The above format is not designed to confuse, nor does it, because it
>
> is
>
>>standard.
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>Gianna Stefani
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> another reason is to formulate the table to encrpyt. Except this cipher
> does not use that technology.
>

Indeed, if by that you mean transposition.
But in such a case one would group the *plaintext* in fives (if 5 is to
be the key) to make the table.
When taking off the ciphertext, the group length would be 47, not 5.
One might then regroup it into 5 ready for display/ transmission, or
display it without spaces.
Either way, on seeing the original post, one would not be confused by
the grouping, or suspect the groups reflected transposition.

--
Gianna Stefani
From: edddy on 2 Mar 2005 13:43

Gianna Stefani wrote:
> eddy wrote:
> > Gianna Stefani wrote:
> >
> >>edddy wrote:
> >>
> >>>fozzy3276(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Can anyone deocde this? Please e-mail.
> >>>>
> >>>>ESQDH RBXTY CGQOQ ZMQGP HPMWI ZDKTV CNYRW LOCYZ LFPNV XTEVT LHRIR
> >>>
> >>>TDKQD
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>BAPFT YPDRG IRFRP BHPMW YRWLM ZTZBT QZOIV BVTRL QNYET CLFBA POSIQ
> >>>
> >>>CQCGQ
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>COBRX PFTIS OCWAT BCGQD PNBHX BLOMW KAWOB AGAPN ZHIAT PCTQC BRYTV
> >>>
> >>>TLOFT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>CDCOR YTPND MWUBQ CDMWE OQACR BYQLT MQXBY RVNTP QCTRM LPECO AT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>A simple word substituiton cipher it appears. Every five letters
> >
> > means
> >
> >>>it is given a format to confuse. Ignore the five letter sets.
> >>>
> >>
> >>It has long been customary to group cryptograms into 5 letter
groups
> >>because the radio operator would transmit the signal in 5 letter
> >
> > groups.
> >
> >>The above format is not designed to confuse, nor does it, because
it
> >
> > is
> >
> >>standard.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>--
> >>Gianna Stefani
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > another reason is to formulate the table to encrpyt. Except this
cipher
> > does not use that technology.
> >
>
> Indeed, if by that you mean transposition.
> But in such a case one would group the *plaintext* in fives (if 5 is
to
> be the key) to make the table.
> When taking off the ciphertext, the group length would be 47, not 5.
> One might then regroup it into 5 ready for display/ transmission, or
> display it without spaces.
> Either way, on seeing the original post, one would not be confused by

> the grouping, or suspect the groups reflected transposition.
>
> --
> Gianna Stefani


It is ust me. I am easilie confused.

From: Jim Gillogly on 3 Mar 2005 23:39
On Wed, 02 Mar 2005 05:20:30 -0800, fozzy3276 wrote:
> Can anyone deocde this? Please e-mail.
>
> ESQDH RBXTY CGQOQ ZMQGP HPMWI ZDKTV CNYRW LOCYZ LFPNV XTEVT LHRIR TDKQD
> BAPFT YPDRG IRFRP BHPMW YRWLM ZTZBT QZOIV BVTRL QNYET CLFBA POSIQ CQCGQ
> COBRX PFTIS OCWAT BCGQD PNBHX BLOMW KAWOB AGAPN ZHIAT PCTQC BRYTV TLOFT
> CDCOR YTPND MWUBQ CDMWE OQACR BYQLT MQXBY RVNTP QCTRM LPECO AT

Yes, lots of people can. If you do a frequency count you'll
notice that J is missing, which suggests a 5x5 Polybius square.
The plaintext indicates that by decrypting this you have solved
the initial stage of a particular challenge. That being the
case, it would be unfair to simply give you the result. However,
I'll tell you that it's a well-known classical digraphic system.
--
Jim Gillogly

From: edddy on 6 Mar 2005 21:15
Well, I was insulted. And the context of my relpy was indicative of
the exact content.

"A temple of the people.........becomes the place way."

ANd the first senetence is written just like that with the dots also.

A quote from famous somebody? So ask fozzy3 how I did?

From: Jim Gillogly on 6 Mar 2005 22:29
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 00:53:54 +0000, Italy Anonymous Remailer wrote:

> Jim Gillogly <jim(a)acm.org>:
>> Yes, lots of people can. If you do a frequency count you'll

> If ytou and edddy really knew how to decode this you would do so
> instead of making the belief that you knew how to decode.

I don't know what edddy's thinking, but my decryption worked.
I think my credit here is good enough to withstand your taunts!
--
Jim Gillogly

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