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From: Andrew Hamilton on 26 Jul 2010 01:39
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:58:38 -0400, Tim Okergit <to(a)notme.com> wrote:

>On 07/24/2010 02:41 PM, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
>> On 24 Jul 2010 15:11:56 GMT, Warren Block<wblock(a)wonkity.com> wrote:

>>> That's a judgement call. I'd say yes. A PCL-only printer is livable,
>>> and some people can use a host-based printer without problems. But a PS
>>> printer gives you more options and is more versatile.
>>
>> Sounds like I really should have a Postscript printer. I am
>> self-employed and can't deal with printer limitation hassles.
>
>Maybe Andrew can explain further what he means by "more options and more
>versatile" -- I must admit my needs are fairly basic -- but PCL
>certainly does the job on my now old Laserjet 1012. (It doesn't feel old
>in any way :)

Tim,

That wasn't me talking about "more options ..." That was someone
replying to me. I was the OP asking about the continued importance of
Postscript.
>

>> Oh. How can that be done?
>
>Windows: http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5034678.html

Thanks for the pointer.

-AH
From: Andrew Hamilton on 26 Jul 2010 01:49
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:03:09 BST, Mr John FO Evans
<mijas(a)orpheusmail.co.uk> wrote:


> The important cost factor in a laser printer can be the replacement toner.
>If you do a large volume of work the cost of the printer itself can be
>relatively insignificant to the cost of replacing the toner.

John,

Thanks for this posting. In my experience over the years, service
costs are also important, at least for my small office/home office
application.

My first printer, years ago, was a QMS 810 PS, and that printer lasted
probably 15 years. Over that time, several repairs were necessary,
but since this printer was based on a Canon print engine that was
common to contemporary HP LaserJet printers, it was quick and
inexpensive to get repairs done. And there were multiple third--party
choices for toner cartridges. I should add that the QMS printer,
while ancient by today's standards, was extremely rugged and reliable.

Quite the opposite experience with my Samsung printer. That's why I'm
seriously considering the appropriate HP printer.


>
> RAM
>
> The RAM you need depends on the work you do. Double-sided printing takes
>more - multiple collated copies takes even more. You need to check that the
>printer is capable of doing the type of work you need to do and then check
>the RAM needed with the printer manufacturer.

The HP printer I'm considering (P2055dn) comes with 128 MB standard.
That's plenty, even for double-sided printing with bitmaps.
>
> HARD DISK (expensive!)
>
> Printers with a built-in hard disk can often tackle larger and more complex
>jobs as well as being able to remember routine work. Again consider you
>requirements and check with the manufacturer.

Not for my application! But people should be aware that when they
replace the entire printer, or just the hard disk, the hard disk
should be scrubbed. Otherwise a hacker could recover confidential
information from the hard drive.

>
> PC/RISCOS

By RISCOS, do you mean Solaris, or any non-Windows/nonMac OS?

-AH
From: Andrew Hamilton on 28 Jul 2010 23:38
On 27 Jul 2010 02:22:24 GMT, Warren Block <wblock(a)wonkity.com> wrote:

>Tim Okergit <to(a)notme.com> wrote:
>>

>To use a digital camera analogy: PostScript is the big-sensor DSLR, PCL
>is the 4x6mm-sensor P&S. You can do good work with either, and they
>both have tradeoffs. But one is more capable and costs more.

LOL! My D SLR is a full-frame (24 mm x 36 mm) model!

The difference isn't that great, under $100. And since I use my
printer partly for business (I'm a consultant) the printer isn't an
area to be a cheapskate.

-AH
From: Andrew Hamilton on 28 Jul 2010 23:39
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:42:11 -0400, Tim Okergit <to(a)notme.com> wrote:


>
>I see the royalties that HP had to pay to Adobe for this rip-off as the
>reason for which they decided to develop PCL for laser. For most people
>PCL does exactly the same. As for me, there's absolutely no difference.

I've noticed (at least on my Samsung printer, for which I have both
Postscript and PCL "instances") that print job file sizes are much,
much smaller for Postscript than PCL.
From: Andrew Hamilton on 28 Jul 2010 23:41
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:05:59 -0400, Tim Okergit <to(a)notme.com> wrote:

>On 07/26/2010 01:33 AM, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:06:25 -0400, Tim Okergit<to(a)notme.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07/24/2010 02:44 PM, Andrew Hamilton wrote:
>>>

>I had to do the same with my Canon. The difference was that my printer
>was in almost perfect working order. Canon just wouldn't provide the
>necessary information.
>
>Can you understand that I'm even more pissed at Canon than you are at
>Samsung? I printed less than 5,000 sheets with my BJ-300!
>
>Canon? Never ever again will I buy anything from this bunch of mother
>fuckers!

I can truly understand. I also have a multi-function Canon MP 530 and
the software that came with this printer is so bad that calling it a
POS would be high praise.

Your descriptions of withholding customer information so that they
could sell you a new printer is, well, pretty shabby. No more Canon
printers for me. (And I'm going to buy a photo printer next year, so
I can do nice prints from that full-frame D SLR!)
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