From: S.T. on
On 2/9/2010 12:36 PM, David Mark wrote:
> Oh, what a shock, mine is _fastest_. Does that mean _slowest_ in your
> language?

It's testing ops/ms, so... yeah... bigger numbers are better. The "final
ops/ms (more is better)" label in the final results is a big giveaway.

> And, of course, these tests must be run multiple times in a variety of
> environments to indicate anything of substance. Still, it sure
> doesn't look like "one of the slowest" from the early returns. ;)

OK. Here's my results.

On IE6 yours fairs alright. Behind JQuery/Sizzle and NWMatcher, but
ahead of the others. Pretty close top-to-bottom here.
58 99 42 78* 126 114 47

On Win/Chrome 4.0.249.78 yours is dead last, a little behind Mootools
and Dojo, with the others well ahead.
517 1298 246 162* 2926 1780 1357

On Wn/FF3.6 dead last again, not far behind Mootools at least.
374 435 279 141* 1386 526 458

On IE8 you beat Mootools handily, behind to well-behind the rest.
209 435 64 143* 811 533 476
From: David Mark on
S.T. wrote:
> On 2/9/2010 12:36 PM, David Mark wrote:
>> Oh, what a shock, mine is _fastest_. Does that mean _slowest_ in your
>> language?
>
> It's testing ops/ms, so... yeah... bigger numbers are better. The "final
> ops/ms (more is better)" label in the final results is a big giveaway.

If I had bothered to pay attention to his folly, I would have seen that.
So what?

And who knows what it is testing? Have you looked at the code? Do you
really think there is such a measurable difference between QSA calls? I
don't.

>
>> And, of course, these tests must be run multiple times in a variety of
>> environments to indicate anything of substance. Still, it sure
>> doesn't look like "one of the slowest" from the early returns. ;)
>
> OK. Here's my results.
>
> On IE6 yours fairs alright. Behind JQuery/Sizzle and NWMatcher, but
> ahead of the others. Pretty close top-to-bottom here.
> 58 99 42 78* 126 114 47

On that run. See above.

>
> On Win/Chrome 4.0.249.78 yours is dead last, a little behind Mootools
> and Dojo, with the others well ahead.
> 517 1298 246 162* 2926 1780 1357

Whatever that means. See above.

>
> On Wn/FF3.6 dead last again, not far behind Mootools at least.
> 374 435 279 141* 1386 526 458
>
> On IE8 you beat Mootools handily, behind to well-behind the rest.
> 209 435 64 143* 811 533 476

Again. What makes you think these numbers have any meaning at all?
because "jdalton" said they did?
From: gf3 on
On Feb 9, 4:08 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> S.T. wrote:
> > On 2/9/2010 12:36 PM, David Mark wrote:
> >> Oh, what a shock, mine is _fastest_.  Does that mean _slowest_ in your
> >> language?
>
> > It's testing ops/ms, so... yeah... bigger numbers are better. The "final
> > ops/ms (more is better)" label in the final results is a big giveaway.
>
> If I had bothered to pay attention to his folly, I would have seen that.
>  So what?
>
> And who knows what it is testing?  Have you looked at the code?  Do you
> really think there is such a measurable difference between QSA calls?  I
> don't.
>
>
>
> >> And, of course, these tests must be run multiple times in a variety of
> >> environments to indicate anything of substance.  Still, it sure
> >> doesn't look like "one of the slowest" from the early returns.  ;)
>
> > OK. Here's my results.
>
> > On IE6 yours fairs alright. Behind JQuery/Sizzle and NWMatcher, but
> > ahead of the others. Pretty close top-to-bottom here.
> > 58   99   42   78*   126   114   47
>
> On that run.  See above.
>
>
>
> > On Win/Chrome 4.0.249.78 yours is dead last, a little behind Mootools
> > and Dojo, with the others well ahead.
> > 517      1298      246      162*      2926      1780      1357
>
> Whatever that means.  See above.
>
>
>
> > On Wn/FF3.6 dead last again, not far behind Mootools at least.
> > 374        435        279        141*       1386   526        458
>
> > On IE8 you beat Mootools handily, behind to well-behind the rest.
> >  209   435   64   143*   811   533   476
>
> Again.  What makes you think these numbers have any meaning at all?
> because "jdalton" said they did?


WebKit Nightly Version 4.0.4 (6531.21.10, r54448)

834 1317 361 189* 2694 1934 1495

Jussayin'
From: David Mark on
gf3 wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:08 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> S.T. wrote:
>>> On 2/9/2010 12:36 PM, David Mark wrote:
>>>> Oh, what a shock, mine is _fastest_. Does that mean _slowest_ in your
>>>> language?
>>> It's testing ops/ms, so... yeah... bigger numbers are better. The "final
>>> ops/ms (more is better)" label in the final results is a big giveaway.
>> If I had bothered to pay attention to his folly, I would have seen that.
>> So what?
>>
>> And who knows what it is testing? Have you looked at the code? Do you
>> really think there is such a measurable difference between QSA calls? I
>> don't.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> And, of course, these tests must be run multiple times in a variety of
>>>> environments to indicate anything of substance. Still, it sure
>>>> doesn't look like "one of the slowest" from the early returns. ;)
>>> OK. Here's my results.
>>> On IE6 yours fairs alright. Behind JQuery/Sizzle and NWMatcher, but
>>> ahead of the others. Pretty close top-to-bottom here.
>>> 58 99 42 78* 126 114 47
>> On that run. See above.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Win/Chrome 4.0.249.78 yours is dead last, a little behind Mootools
>>> and Dojo, with the others well ahead.
>>> 517 1298 246 162* 2926 1780 1357
>> Whatever that means. See above.
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Wn/FF3.6 dead last again, not far behind Mootools at least.
>>> 374 435 279 141* 1386 526 458
>>> On IE8 you beat Mootools handily, behind to well-behind the rest.
>>> 209 435 64 143* 811 533 476
>> Again. What makes you think these numbers have any meaning at all?
>> because "jdalton" said they did?
>
>
> WebKit Nightly Version 4.0.4 (6531.21.10, r54448)
>
> 834 1317 361 189* 2694 1934 1495
>

Great! Now if someone can explain why these numbers have any meaning at
all... Otherwise, they are just numbers. ;)

My QSA wrapper is so thin that it makes me think these tests are bogus
or he used my QSA-less version. I don't have the interest to
investigate, but perhaps somebody else will.
From: AlexSexton on
On Feb 9, 3:19 pm, gf3 <giannichiappe...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 4:08 pm, David Mark <dmark.cins...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > S.T. wrote:
> > > On 2/9/2010 12:36 PM, David Mark wrote:
> > >> Oh, what a shock, mine is _fastest_.  Does that mean _slowest_ in your
> > >> language?
>
> > > It's testing ops/ms, so... yeah... bigger numbers are better. The "final
> > > ops/ms (more is better)" label in the final results is a big giveaway..
>
> > If I had bothered to pay attention to his folly, I would have seen that..
> >  So what?
>
> > And who knows what it is testing?  Have you looked at the code?  Do you
> > really think there is such a measurable difference between QSA calls?  I
> > don't.
>
> > >> And, of course, these tests must be run multiple times in a variety of
> > >> environments to indicate anything of substance.  Still, it sure
> > >> doesn't look like "one of the slowest" from the early returns.  ;)
>
> > > OK. Here's my results.
>
> > > On IE6 yours fairs alright. Behind JQuery/Sizzle and NWMatcher, but
> > > ahead of the others. Pretty close top-to-bottom here.
> > > 58   99   42   78*   126   114   47
>
> > On that run.  See above.
>
> > > On Win/Chrome 4.0.249.78 yours is dead last, a little behind Mootools
> > > and Dojo, with the others well ahead.
> > > 517      1298      246      162*      2926      1780      1357
>
> > Whatever that means.  See above.
>
> > > On Wn/FF3.6 dead last again, not far behind Mootools at least.
> > > 374        435        279        141*       1386   526        458
>
> > > On IE8 you beat Mootools handily, behind to well-behind the rest.
> > >  209   435   64   143*   811   533   476
>
> > Again.  What makes you think these numbers have any meaning at all?
> > because "jdalton" said they did?
>
> WebKit Nightly Version 4.0.4 (6531.21.10, r54448)
>
>  834     1317    361     189*    2694    1934    1495
>
> Jussayin'

MyLibrary in my tests:

latest Chrome (5.0.317.2)/Vista-x64
592 1290 296 202* 3276 1796 1403

Firefox 3.6
321 395 269 149* 1260 458 419

IE8:
193 383 58 128* 708 479 404

Hell, I'll set up a jdalton tribute site if it makes David Mark wrong
(again)...