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From: Jeroen Geilman on 7 Aug 2010 09:52
On 08/07/2010 02:05 PM, David Touzeau wrote:
> Dear all
>
> I would like to thanks to the postfix users that answers me better
> than a professional support (who said that Open Source products have
> support problems ?).
> I would like to thanks to wietse that accomplish the best SMTP server
> used in the world.
> Postfix/weitse are now a part of the Internet History and participate
> actively of the Internet growth during this century.
>
> I use postfix for 4 years and I also wanted to participate in the
> postfix improvement, not to change the postfix code but helps newbees
> using postfix easly.
>
> My Open Source project is not totally finish but everybody can use it
> and test it.
>
> This project is called Artica and it's a web Ajax interface front-end
> for Postfix.

That runs on PHP, Perl, Python AND undisclosed binaries - not to mention
half a dozen unattributed *open source* projects.

>
> My target is to provide a mail/relay Postfix service including all
> standards requests including :

Postfix already does that.

> You can download ISO that install for you a debian system in
> sourceforge here http://sourceforge.net/projects/artica-postfix/files/

Um.. no ?

>
> Or install yourself your distribution and download/execute a setup
> available here :
>
> http://www.artica.fr/index.php/get-a-download-artica/binaries-setup-all-distris
>

Where is the source ?

Are the half-dozen included open source projects attributed correctly ?
Your license makes NO mention of them.
Did you even ask their permission ?

I'm amazed that *source*forge allowed you to host this.

Please, shoot me down if I am wrong - I am no expert on Open Source
licensing, but attribution is NOT optional.

J.

From: Jonathan Tripathy on 7 Aug 2010 10:08

> I'm amazed that *source*forge allowed you to host this.
>
> Please, shoot me down if I am wrong - I am no expert on Open Source
> licensing, but attribution is NOT optional.
>
>
You are wrong. Provided that the license is GPL, LGPL or BSA based, then
no permission is needed.

Please give the guy a break. I admire him for wanting to contribute to
the open source community, and wanting to get involved.

David, keep up the good work! I'm thrilled that your starting this
project :)

From: Jonathan Tripathy on 7 Aug 2010 10:13


On 07/08/10 15:08, Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
>
>> I'm amazed that *source*forge allowed you to host this.
>>
>> Please, shoot me down if I am wrong - I am no expert on Open Source
>> licensing, but attribution is NOT optional.
>>
>>
> You are wrong. Provided that the license is GPL, LGPL or BSA based,
> then no permission is needed.
>
> Please give the guy a break. I admire him for wanting to contribute to
> the open source community, and wanting to get involved.
>
> David, keep up the good work! I'm thrilled that your starting this
> project :)

And also, GPL makes no mention of attribution. You can't remove the
copyright notice though.

From: David Touzeau on 7 Aug 2010 11:24
Hi

four anyone what sources

it is here

http://github.com/dtouzeau/artica

On 07/08/2010 16:13, Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
>
>
> On 07/08/10 15:08, Jonathan Tripathy wrote:
>>
>>> I'm amazed that *source*forge allowed you to host this.
>>>
>>> Please, shoot me down if I am wrong - I am no expert on Open Source
>>> licensing, but attribution is NOT optional.
>>>
>>>
>> You are wrong. Provided that the license is GPL, LGPL or BSA based,
>> then no permission is needed.
>>
>> Please give the guy a break. I admire him for wanting to contribute to
>> the open source community, and wanting to get involved.
>>
>> David, keep up the good work! I'm thrilled that your starting this
>> project :)
>
> And also, GPL makes no mention of attribution. You can't remove the
> copyright notice though.

From: Jeroen Geilman on 7 Aug 2010 11:30
On 08/07/2010 05:24 PM, David Touzeau wrote:
> Hi
>
> four anyone what sources
>
> it is here
>
> http://github.com/dtouzeau/artica
>

Thanks!

Perhaps you would consider linking to them on your web site ?

I may have been overly harsh, but I hardly ever see open source projects
that have all the exterior hallmarks of being a commercial enterprise.

I admit freely that your post looked a lot like a thinly veiled
advertisement :)

J.

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